You contrast?

So, how would a peace treaty work with a non rational actor?

By your logic, no one should stand up to the US either because we have enough glowy ordinance to turn Russia, China, and Iran into glass and have enough nukes to end all life a million times over.

Bullies also don’t have nuclear weapons.

Uh, yes. Yes they do.

Literally retarded

Yanukovych wasn’t strung up by protestors, he was removed from power by a huge majority of the Ukrainian parliament, including members of Yanukovych’s own party, and they held an election later that year. For what you’re saying to make sense, any large protest in a country would have to potentially void any international treaty that country is party to. Russia doesn’t get to invade and annex land just because there was a big protest and then the parliament kicked the president out.

If I were Ukrainian, then fucking yes. As an American, also yes, because with proper support, Russia won’t win and it won’t come down to the last Ukrainian. If Mexico invaded the US, killed thousands of Americans, and occupied a bunch, you think just giving some of that up would be acceptable? Fuck that. Not only does sending munitions to Ukraine help them, it both hurts Russia which is great, and boosts the US economy and refreshes our arsenal. War sucks, but since it’s happening and we can’t stop it, we might as well help the good guys and benefit ourselves.

All of this ignores how past negotiations with Russia have taken place, and they reneged anyway. They can’t be trusted to hold up any sort of deal, so fuck em. Best case is that civil unrest ends the war first, but until then, the only good Russian invader is a dead Russian invader.

Uh, the war can still end without peace negotiations you know

That’s… That’s what war is?

Also not in the states and hey getting sick of explaining that Ukraine is the one who gets to make that call. And they have made it clear they will fight on. This conflict might have some years left but seeing as the (probably others) is north korea I think most know how it ends.

Oh and China, India are bending russia over right now laughing and saying “cheap oil go burrrrrrr”

How do you reach a compromise and guarantee Russia doesn’t invade again?

NATO is not Ukraine (yet), that makes about as much sense as say China getting to invade Iran because the UAE bombed north korea.

I would think popular uprisings like in 2014 against rich oligarch rule would be more up your alley. Really though that also does not work as much of an excuse to invade another nation state.

I think my screeching is quite pleasant compared to whatever mental gymnastics are needed to eat what you are selling.

Oh and as I said above, Ukraine gets to make the call on when they are willing to stop fighting. Not myself, not you.

do you ever stop to think about how you would fare in Russia with a username like that? these are the people you think should be negotiated with

Care to elaborate?

You are Ukrainian then? Because I think they are the only ones who get to make that call.

Say they do negotiate peace, what do they do next time Russia wants to invade?

Give more up?