“When someone says both sides, its obvious they have not been watching the actions of the political parties. Lets look how they vote.” - /u/armored_cat

Really annoys me when I read apathetic people saying that Dems and Reps are the same. Yes, there’s a lot of crony corpos in the Dems side but they are in no way even close to the same. There’s a lot of stuff the Dems have done that I’m not a fan of, but are still not even close to being the same as Reps.

This is a great comment that outlines the stark differences on voting records that I archived so it wasn’t lost.

They are not the same, make sure you vote to keep the fascists out. Also vote in the primaries so we can get more progressive/populist representatives as candidates. Voting is not the only answer to salvage the future but it’s definitely a part of the answer.

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The “greed is good actually” line is the one I take issue with. It’s very shortsighted and I really don’t want anything with more power than our species taking it to heart.

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Okay, but have you read a construction of her actual system? It’s not about greed, it’s a system of ethics based on two things: basic metaphysical axioms you must accept to even consider any kind of philosophical discourse, and the fact that human being are alive. It sounds impossible, but she created a 100% objective system of ethics based on these principles, hence the name Objectivism. The point isn’t whether you like the idea or not, the point is whether you understand the logical origin of the ideas and why they are correct. It’s a deeply interesting system if you want to fully examine it. Here is a link to an objective source on her work including many criticisms that might help you understand it better if that’s something you wish to do.

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/ayn-rand/notes.html#note-7

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So why were her fiction books about “Screw you I got mine”, as well as her life? Was she a terrible representative of her system, or is there perhaps an issue with the system?

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Ad hominem and a complete mischaracterization of Rand and her books? At this point I don’t know if we’re talking about the same person.

Yes, Objecticism is founded on ethical egoism, but altruistic values are emphasized when they are consequences of basic virtues. There isno emphasis on failing to help others, but instead encouragement to do so only when one truly wishes to, free of guilt for what one has earned.

Also, Rand lived a rather generous life herself i many ways, especially for an egoist. Also, claiming her system of ethics is bad because she is a bad person is circular and useless. ;)

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