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They all deserve rights. But what right was even violated? If I dump my company’s staff list to the Internet, I maybe broke a company policy, but it’s not infringing on rights, right?

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Monkeys paw curls: Republicans are the ones who decide what a “terrorist” is (hint: it’s black people protesting)

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That would be an obvious violation of equal protection and blatantly unconstitutional in a way that even our current SCOTUS wouldn’t support.

Now, they could define a terrorist in a way that any group or cause who protests in which such protest involves a certain amount of property damage, violence to persons or loss of human life counts as a terrorist group and it wouldn’t be hard to fit BLM and related terrorists under that flag over the 2020 summer protests (which I find interesting because one side likes to pretend that entire cities were burned to the ground and the other likes to pretend they were entirely peaceful and neither of those is true).

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Do you want another abu ghraib? Because this is exactly how we get it.

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Everyone, no matter how horrible, deserves basic human rights. Otherwise they are not rights, they are privileges. Also, I would rather live in a world where we all have a right to food and water, even in prison, than one where prisoners die slowly and in agony because some cruel warden decides they don’t deserve it anymore.

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How’s about the right to a fair trial? Food in prison? Right to appeal? Right to protection from cruel and unusual punishment?

Think about what you say and think, lest you wind up being just as much a threat to democracy, freedom, and equality as those you claim to oppose. Don’t get me wrong; I get that it’s really tempting to treat Neo-Nazis the same way they’d like to treat everyone else, but then you’re just like them.

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I think there’s a big reason why treating them the same way they treat others is fine.

The people that Nazis target are not only usually innocent, but they often don’t even have a choice in the reason for their bullying. You don’t choose to be non-white, be gay, be trans, etc.

Nazis choose to be pieces of shit that hurt innocent people.

The argument that people bring up for not treating them badly is that we don’t want to set a precedent in case the Nazis eventually get in control and decide being on the left is worthy of being deprived your rights.

But I think we all know that they wouldn’t need a precedent to deprive you of your rights if they took control and didn’t like you. They would simply do it if they had the power.

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No, the idea behind human rights is that you get them if you’re human, period. If we suddenly decide this particularly horrible group of humans doesn’t deserve them, we are literally dehumanizing them and paving the way for someone else to later decide another group of humans doesn’t deserve them either.

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One you can prove that I don’t think they should have ANY rights. And yes, I mean of any kind.

Having that conditioned on “proof” requires everybody to have rights, though. Otherwise, you risk removing rights from the wrong people.

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