So due to recent developments, are we still allowed to post and discuss tech-related topics? Or is the goal of this community now one of shitposting on LMG, given the recent name and banner changes?
The recent post on stubby screwdrivers was locked before even giving other people the opportunity to share their own thoughts on alternative brands that are specific to their country. As much as Linus and LMG fucked up, really sad to see this community degrading down a path of hatred (even if justified, based on community name change , banner, etc), instead of chatting about what we all love: technology, independent of the situation at LMG.
Really hate seeing a community with so much promise (especially as a Reddit alternative) getting destroyed.
I find comparison discussions important to choosing a product as it allows us to assess and evaluate what makes a good product, and purchase the best available product for our own needs.
If we find that a product fits our needs, who cares what brand it is? I’m not a fan of Google, but the pixel series seems to be the best device available for me.
If an LTT bag suits someone’s needs for school, then get it.
this is a bad take. You should absolutely care what brand makes your products because some brands use slave labor or child labor, some brands use toxic chemicals, some brands destroy our environment, some brands steal from their employees etc.
If you want to shop on Amazon, and drink Nestle water, and wear Adidas that’s your choice, but don’t pretend like brands don’t matter. You say you don’t like google, but you send them your money and in doing so, send them your support in the only way that matters.
I commend you if you are able to pursue a 100% ethical approach, but it’s also a bad take to expect everyone to follow that approach.
The reality is that purchasing ethically is a luxury, and a first world problem. The power of brand choice is very much a luxury. You are assuming that everyone has the purchasing power of choosing ethical production. You can only do that if you have the means to choose and finances to pay. The majority of the world doesn’t have the fans financial means and have no choice but to purchase what they can afford, regardless of unethical production.
If we don’t realize this unfortunate reality of the world, it only exacerbates unethical production even further, making it much harder to find ethically produced goods, as ethical products get more and more expensive due to demand, making people flock to unethically produced goods due to financial means.
However, in this sepecific case, people who can afford a 250$ backpack, a 70$ screwdriver, and/or a 60$ fanny pack probably have the financial power to choose.
As much as I am also upset that LTT related post is dis allowed here, I don’t feel like “people cannot afford ethical consumption” is a good argument against it.
some brands use slave labor or child labor, some brands use toxic chemicals, some brands destroy our environment
That’s a stance I can only admire, but you’re basically removing any decently priced piece of technology from your life, starting from the iPhone.
We can totally buy fair stuff made 100% in America which costs probably 5x the price of the same article built in China, but for a lot of people, the wallet is a higher priority if they have to choose between being ethic or buying food for their family.
It’s not always easy living a more ethical lifestyle, and of course there’s no truly ethical consumption under capitalism, but you can try.
Most people have too many things and in order to afford them all they need them to be cheaper. You need less than you think, you don’t need the new phone every other year, or a new laptop every update cycle, or iPods or an iPad. You don’t need a smart watch or wireless earphones or designer clothes or 5 pairs of shoes. You don’t need multiple TVs or multiple games consoles.
Less consumption means more money for the things you need, which means you can be more ethical with your choices.
Of course if you’re in a position of struggling to feed your kids, you gotta do what you gotta do. Too late to do anything about it at that point
If we find that a product fits our needs, who cares what brand it is?
Eh, that’s sort of muddy water. There’s still value in supporting something that you believe in, and putting your money where your mouth is. It’s easy to argue that by buying a company’s product, you’re actively supporting their business practices, shitty or not. So it kind of depends on whether you care about their practices that much.
Normal statistical distribution will most likely point to varying degrees and levels of care for those practices, and regardless where anyone sits on that distribution graph, all those points of views are perfectly okay to have.
Edit: people really hate the reality of stats and math huh. So much for pushing science forward.
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the stats, wherever they came from. They have a problem with the last sentence you added, which is
all those points of views are perfectly okay to have
That’s not science, that’s your opinion.
