So due to recent developments, are we still allowed to post and discuss tech-related topics? Or is the goal of this community now one of shitposting on LMG, given the recent name and banner changes?
The recent post on stubby screwdrivers was locked before even giving other people the opportunity to share their own thoughts on alternative brands that are specific to their country. As much as Linus and LMG fucked up, really sad to see this community degrading down a path of hatred (even if justified, based on community name change , banner, etc), instead of chatting about what we all love: technology, independent of the situation at LMG.
Really hate seeing a community with so much promise (especially as a Reddit alternative) getting destroyed.
Odd to see the screwdriver thread locked, since it’s something I would view as directly related to LTT as opposed to off tangent. Seems normal to want to compare similar products, since I am assuming most of us prefer to get as much insight into the quality of a product and whether it is worth the price as opposed to blindly buying.
I find comparison discussions important to choosing a product as it allows us to assess and evaluate what makes a good product, and purchase the best available product for our own needs.
If we find that a product fits our needs, who cares what brand it is? I’m not a fan of Google, but the pixel series seems to be the best device available for me.
If an LTT bag suits someone’s needs for school, then get it.
this is a bad take. You should absolutely care what brand makes your products because some brands use slave labor or child labor, some brands use toxic chemicals, some brands destroy our environment, some brands steal from their employees etc.
If you want to shop on Amazon, and drink Nestle water, and wear Adidas that’s your choice, but don’t pretend like brands don’t matter. You say you don’t like google, but you send them your money and in doing so, send them your support in the only way that matters.
I commend you if you are able to pursue a 100% ethical approach, but it’s also a bad take to expect everyone to follow that approach.
The reality is that purchasing ethically is a luxury, and a first world problem. The power of brand choice is very much a luxury. You are assuming that everyone has the purchasing power of choosing ethical production. You can only do that if you have the means to choose and finances to pay. The majority of the world doesn’t have the fans financial means and have no choice but to purchase what they can afford, regardless of unethical production.
If we don’t realize this unfortunate reality of the world, it only exacerbates unethical production even further, making it much harder to find ethically produced goods, as ethical products get more and more expensive due to demand, making people flock to unethically produced goods due to financial means.
some brands use slave labor or child labor, some brands use toxic chemicals, some brands destroy our environment
That’s a stance I can only admire, but you’re basically removing any decently priced piece of technology from your life, starting from the iPhone.
We can totally buy fair stuff made 100% in America which costs probably 5x the price of the same article built in China, but for a lot of people, the wallet is a higher priority if they have to choose between being ethic or buying food for their family.
If we find that a product fits our needs, who cares what brand it is?
Eh, that’s sort of muddy water. There’s still value in supporting something that you believe in, and putting your money where your mouth is. It’s easy to argue that by buying a company’s product, you’re actively supporting their business practices, shitty or not. So it kind of depends on whether you care about their practices that much.
Normal statistical distribution will most likely point to varying degrees and levels of care for those practices, and regardless where anyone sits on that distribution graph, all those points of views are perfectly okay to have.
Edit: people really hate the reality of stats and math huh. So much for pushing science forward.
Mod seems to think anyone who doesn’t view LTT as evil now is a ‘fanboy’.
I’d join a different LTT community modded by someone more chill if someone makes one :)
After my post got locked yesterday, I setup my own instance: !ltt@devops.pizza - feel free to use it.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !ltt@devops.pizza
There is a line between treating a company like a company vs complete cancellation. Let’s not cross that line.
We can all agree that they should be held to scrutiny, get absolutely clowned on and ripped apart. But I don’t think they deserve immediate cancellation. Give them time, let them cook, they are a company and they did everything a company should do so far (even if it took some pushing).
You don’t have to forgive them for anything either and that’s fine, companies after they cross a certain size rarely, if ever, deserve the benefit of the doubt. That’s why you go and hurt their bottom line first (and that is money). Cancellation should be the last option.
Unless 7heo is willing to add other mods to the team, there’s nothing much you can do except create another community on other instances. Probably best to subscribe to technology communities for actual tech news.
For the time being, I think shitting on LTT is okay-ish. But given that 7heo is still actively shitting on them, locking posts that don’t align with their views despite OP not being a controversial topic at all, this is probably going to become his own echo chamber instead of a community that actually wants LTT to improve and have any meaningful discussion. I doubt they’re going to limit these kind of shitposts after the investigation ends and proper arrangements have been made.
After my post got locked yesterday, I setup my own instance: !ltt@devops.pizza - feel free to use it.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !ltt@devops.pizza
I’m glad I locked your post then. It is actually great that you make your community. And if more people like it, you will get more users.
I tell you what. Please make a post about your community, I will pin it.
Edit: exactly as I thought. 24h later, no new post, only downvotes. I’m so, so surprised.
Edit 2: so, almost a week after this comment, @cpressland@devops.pizza finally made a post. It’s pinned now (on the 3rd of September), but it would have been a lot sooner had I had a notification about it…
After my post got locked yesterday, I setup my own instance: !ltt@devops.pizza - feel free to use it.
Lmao, I’ve just read the mod’s comments on that locked post. Oof. Yeah I’m out, I don’t want to be in a community modded by someone like that. And they’ve changed the title, logo image, and banner to the recent drama. They clearly have an agenda. I don’t want an echo chamber so I’ll join yours. Go the fediverse.
I’m all for this community to shitpost LMG, after all what’s the point of it given their recent fuck up? LMG themselves destroyed their community if anything. Also fuck their screwdriver, it’s $60 and you’re not even ensuring that it’s ethically made by paying such a premium. Employees self-harming to get a day off sounds like something happening at a Chinese factory making $10 screwdrivers, not $60. So fuck them twice.
Unfortunately I don’t have time to shitpost myself, would gladly do it otherwise.