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It’s also not okay to attempt treason (and be bad at it, too.) She will be in protective solitary confinement and and solitary is where she belongs.

I realize solitary is considered torture, but not too long ago we would just straight up execute treasoners. This is an improvement.

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She is being put in prison for insurrection.
She is being put in solitary (which is torture) for being trans.

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You are overlooking the part where we normally hang treasoners. It is fantastic for her we didn’t just put her around the wall and tell some people to shoot at her. Solitary, for her safety, is a blessing. Nobody who participated in j6 should even be alive for us to speak about right now.

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I’m not overlooking anything. I’m against the death penalty on principle.
But also in practice, because it doesn’t achieve what its proponents claim.

And saying “we” used to just shoot people for their crimes isn’t a convincing argument in itself. “We” also used to lynch black people and electrocute homosexuals.

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Username checks out I guess.

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8 years in a men’s prison where she’ll be a target, and that is putting it mildly. It is arguably crueler than a quick hanging or a bullet behind the gas shed, at least in its intent. Direct malice where an execution or an equivalent sentence in a women’s facility, while disdainful, is not about humiliation and ritual purification by the threat of sexual torture. When trans people are put in the wrong prison, it is a punitive measure for that person’s perceived sexual deviance, and an open threat to the rest of the queer community: rape is and has always been considered an acceptable punishment for sexual minorities. If America had wanted to fix that, it might have, but American prisons are punitive above all else. So the question becomes, do we endorse torture on our political enemies? I don’t think we are the enlightened side of good if we argue “be thankful we don’t execute you.”

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we normally hang treasoners.

Who does??

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I don’t care. It doesn’t make it OK.

Beside, I hate the idea of a citizen committing “treason”. I have absolutely no loyalty whatsoever to my country, I just happen to be born there, I didn’t chose it, I didn’t signed up for it.

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By definition only citizens can commit treason? I don’t have any loyalty either (I’m an anarchist) but if I pick up arms against my country I know what to expect. It might involve a lot of getting shot.

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