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I think it was in California in the 90s that some guys tried to rob a bank, but they had full body armour and helmets, and were armed with assault rifles and high capacity magazines. The cops were useless against them as all they had were squad cars, pistols, and a few shotguns. It was a huge wake up call for police forces across America and it didn’t take long for them to start acquiring better equipment.

If you don’t like the militarization of your police, then you need to do something about the militarization of your general populace.

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Thnx for the link. Didn’t know their body armour was home made. That’s some pretty good dedication to one’s trade. Too bad they couldn’t have put that talent into something constructive.

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They just stitched bought armor together, basically.

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How dare you point out that this is an example of weapons that have been federally prohibited for a century! Now how can people moderation fallacy their way into sounding reasonable?

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illegally modified

So let’s make more things illegal because it will fix everything for sure

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Not sure what has your panties in a wad over that.

The converted rifles in that crime were not ATF Form 2 weapons, so calling them “illegaly modified” is a true and factual statement.

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You can now prosecute people doing harm with new charges. I don’t know why that isn’t significant. Why does every action have to “fix everything?”

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What point are you trying to draw, here?

  • Taking reliable existing semi-automatic firearms and modifying to fully automatic still would not be feasible for these dunces if they were starting out from scratch (at least not with any semblance of reliability from an engineer’s standpoint). Finally, should be noted that there’s little reason the outcome would’ve been different had they been semi-automatic, considering ammunition waste and less attention to accuracy. If their goals were that of the Aurora shooter, then that would be different.

  • “home made body armor” implies they made it from scratch. No. They used several vests worth of manufactured body armor to make full body armor.

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What point are you trying to draw, here?

None, I linked the wiki entry for the person who “remembered there was an incident” because I remembered the incident.

What point are you trying ro draw here?

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This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on the internet. Sure give up all your rights as a citizen based on one (probably fake, but either way) story about a single supposed situation where someone outgunned the police

Fucking bootlicker

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Ah yeah, I remember giving up my rights as a citizen in 1996 when Thomas Hamilton outgunned a bunch of children in a primary school

We seem to be doing just fine here without our rights, oddly enough, along with the rest of modernity

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I think having some higher power weapons for law enforcement in case it ever comes to that is (while related) a different problem than police militarization. I think the best bet would to be have specialized units for those extreme cases they could reasonably deploy in a timely/effective manner. Every cop having access to surplus military gear is a huge problem and I wish weren’t to a point where having specific units was even a necessity.

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These deluded right-wingers don’t care about what’s true, unfortunately.

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Pointing out the likely catalyst that triggered all of the police militarization makes me a bootlicker?

Well that’s one way to missinterpret things!

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