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Breanna Gayle Devall Runions, 25, was charged with first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse in the death of Evangaline Gunter.

The child’s parents, Adam and Josie Gunter, told ABC affiliate WATE that Evangaline had been in temporary custody at a home in Rockwood, which Runions shared with girlfriend Christina Daniels and another child, a 7-year-old girl.

Before the shooting, Evangaline and the older girl were being punished that morning by Runions for not waking up the women and for eating Daniels’ food without permission, according to the warrant and a statement from Russell Johnson, district attorney general for Tennessee’s 9th Judicial District. Runions struck both girls with a sandal before forcing them to stand in different corners of the women’s bedroom, authorities said the older girl told them.

After the shooting, the women drove Evangaline to a nearby Walmart location to meet an ambulance, Roane County Medical Examiner Dr. Thomas Boduch told the Roane County News, and the vehicle transported the girl to a hospital where she was pronounced dead. Boduch could not immediately be reached by HuffPost.

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That is a firearms issue.

Untrained, irresponsible people are getting access to guns.

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I fully agree irresponsible people are getting access, but this goes beyond firearms and training. There is irresponsible ownership and use, and then there is putting a firearm in the chest of a child, right after removing a loaded mag and pulling the trigger. Using my car analogy - there is irresponsible not wearing a seat belt, and then there is putting a kid on the roof and going off roading. First one - training, laziness, responsibility and access issue, second one is straight up murder.

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You understand this is simply another example of “people who should never have access to guns because they’re too immature/angry/stupid” which is all anybody is asking.

There are a lot of crazy rednecks out there who are not safe with guns, we need a way to stop them specifically from having them.

And this enraged the gun lobby because many of them know that sometimes, they’re that moron.

I say this as an extremely responsible gun owner.

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Without taking a stance myself - I doubt anyone disagrees with the principle, but rather on the implementation. How do we know who’s responsible enough; can we write a law that accounts for:

• A 50-year-old woman who committed robbery in a moment of desperation as a 16-year-old and has since shown remorse, attended therapy, and held a stable job,

• A 40-year-old businessman who’s never been convicted of anything, seemed okay when he saw a therapist once last year, but privately he gets into vicious screaming matches with his wife and has really inappropriate temper tantrums when he’s drunk, and

• A 21-year-old college graduate who seems smart and stable enough, but their social media page is full of harsh criticisms of the government, projections of what would happen if various officials were theoretically assassinated, and more than a few references to “hoping for another civil war”?

While balancing that with the idea that the government isn’t supposed to protect something as a “right” while also preemptively taking that right away from people they think might be dangerous, if they can’t point to highly credible evidence. (Otherwise, it becomes possible to arrest people for ‘thought crimes.’)

Idk the solution personally. Seems impossible to balance unless gun access legally becomes a privilege to qualify for, rather than a right to be restricted from. But that would put the power into states’ hands, and then states would have the power to decide that no one can have guns except the police.

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Unfortunately, no matter how responsible you may be the rules apply to all. The only way to make meaningful changes is for the responsible gun owners to limit their own access via licences, vetting, restrictions and quality registration systems and to push government to apply it to everyone. It is a culture problem, and needs those on the right side of the rules to bring everyone’s standards up.

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Yeah typically I’m not on board with the “guns don’t kill people” argument but in this particular case, the adult in charge was already (allegedly, potentially) criminally abusive. If not a gun, it would have been ‘teaching her to chop vegetables with a knife,’ or ‘teaching her to hold her breath underwater,’ or so on.

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As stated in my top comment - I fully agree America is dangerously obsessed with firearms, and first look at the article was “same old story”. But Jesus, the straight up actions they took means this isn’t a firearm problem. If you want to get change, attack the negligence, manufacturers and law makers for the actions they take - but this wasn’t on them.

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I think the point they are trying to make is that in this situation, the perpetrator would have said she tripped and stabbed her with a knife if she didn’t have access to a gun. It’s not a gun issue, this person just genuinely wanted to murder a child that got on her nerves.

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You have no way of knowing that. We do however know that she did murder the child with a gun she should never have had access to.

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That’s not what this was. This wasn’t a lack of training, this wasn’t irresponsible behavior, this goes way beyond neglect or ignorance. This was murder, full on. Not an accident.

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It’s both.

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Nah, neglect is simply not giving a shit. Pressing a gun barrel into a 4 year old and pulling the trigger while you called another kid over to watch isn’t anything other than premeditated murder.

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All the training in the world wouldn’t have stopped this. They wanted that kid dead.

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Yes but removing access to guns would have certainly gone a long way.

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It would change the headline to “4 year old fatally stabbed by woman who was teaching her 'kitchen knife safety '”.

Again, they wanted this kid dead. Removing guns from this particular equation wouldn’t change much.

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