Given the name of the leader of this community, I figured I’d throw this out there:

I’ve never read any of Jim Butcher’s books, and have heard good things about The Dresden Files.

Where do I start? Is there a good website to show a suggested reading order, etc?

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Oh nooooooooooo

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It’s an in-character perspective of Dresden, meant to be a character quirk. Jim writes short stories from other perspectives without the same issues, and none of his other series have it either. Unfortunately many readers confuse character perspective with author opinion.

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In this case OC just said “he” and could be talking about Harry. Some people also just don’t wanna read that kind of perspective.

It’s also strange that like… every single woman in the series (including a teenager) want to sleep with Harry. There’s nothing wrong with somebody not enjoying reading things like that. Whether the author thinks that way or it’s just a character trait of the main character in the series, a lot of people just don’t want to read constant misogyny.

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I can think of quite a few women in the series who aren’t sexually interested in Harry. Probably more than actually are interested in him, when I think about it. So calling it ‘every single woman’ is definitely a stretch

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This was a better argument before Butcher realized he’d need to retcon Molly’s age to not completely disgust the readers, or the events of the latest book and the presumed direction of the next.

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I’ve read all of them. I’ve read other novels with character perspectives about women even worse than the dresden files. However, there are some times where I had to put the book down because it felt… gross. Like unreasonable wish fulfillment that adds nothing to the story.

I think its the fact that it’s the only area in which the reader is supposed to believe that Harry might not be the most reliable narrator? And other characters are kind of guilty of it too.

Again, I’ve read all of them. I probably will continue to read the series as my library gets them available. I like the magic system. I like the world building and the rules. I just find some of Harry’s perspective icky.

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Unreliable narrator isn’t the way I’d put it. See https://www.reddit.com/r/dresdenfiles/comments/10vlsra/harry_is_not_an_unreliable_narrator/. It’s, as you say, Harry’s perspective. Yes, we may not agree with it, but I can’t say I find it unrealistic given the genre and his personal history.

In fact, I find it an intriguing moral discussion. Do we judge Harry for his private thoughts, or for his actions? In the real world, the answer would obviously be actions. We are none of us fully in control of our thoughts or urges. The fact that he behaves as a gentleman at all times should be lauded. Instead, many readers seem to think that he should be pure in heart and soul, and hold him to an unreasonably high moral standard.

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I’ve heard that argument before, and fine, I guess, but I have 0 interest in reading a story from the perspective of a pedo.

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I doubt the pedo label applies. What does he do or say that would justify calling him that? I’m guessing you’ve never actually read the story?

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