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And you know what’s the worst part. It’s the owner refusing to pay him proper wages that forces this tipping culture in the first place. It’s absolutely atrocious and we shouldn’t even be responsible for making sure they get a living wage. That should always be up to the owner

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The owner will 100% always raise wages versus just pack up shop and go out of business entirely if forced. But not out of the goodness of their heart lol.

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Yep. California pays their servers the state minimum wage of $15 an hour. They still get tips, and basically no restaurants went out of business when they “suddenly had to pay minimum wage.”

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And to the few that did go out of business, I don’t have much sympathy. If you’re unable to run your business in such a way they you make money while paying minimum wage to your employees, go find another job because you weren’t very good at running a restaurant.

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If you want to protest the owner’s business model then boycott businesses that have tips. But refusing to tip at a tipped business is still giving 100℅ of your money to the owner, supporting their business, and leaving the employees out to dry. It’s not morally righteous, it’s cheap.

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Downvoted for being correct I see.

For the downvoters: Any argument against this? He’s clearly right, if you patronize the restaraunt they still get paid and they still don’t have to pay the server shit. “Not tipping” that person didn’t change the culture, it didn’t even hurt the business, the business responsible for this shit to begin with, who got their money. Our only recourse is then to A) Stop eating out all together until the industry collapses and rebuilds tipless, or B) Only go to “no tip” restaraunts if there are any in your area. Any of this half-assed “well the industry needs to just change but I’m not going to do my part to help, I’m just gonna piss off servers and do nothing” bullshit won’t accomplish anything.

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Servers want the status quo because they make more money expecting the rest of us to pay 20-30% markup as a tip with the risk of getting stiffed from time to time. Let them demand whatever they feel is a compensatory wage for their time just like the rest of us. They were fine when the scales tipped their way.

IMO servers sold themselves down the river because it allowed them to make more money than back of house staff. Now that everyone is getting tired of this shit it’s the responsibility of the customer to negotiate them a better position? Laughable.

As someone that worked the kitchen and made less than servers while doing as much if not more work, hard pass. Servers are just mad people are getting tired of this shit and they can’t easily double or triple what the person that actually made the food makes.

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