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It becomes even worse if you point out that a preemptive invasion of a weaker nation due to a fear of attack is the same justification that the USA used for the invasion of Iraq.

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The difference is that in the case of the US that was a lie. And Ukraine being a US proxy is not actually the weaker party in this, Russia is because they don’t have the full backing of an alliance like NATO behind them. So Russia was entirely justified in feeling threatened by a militarized russophobic Nazi regime, not on the other side of an ocean but right on their border, wanting to join a hostile military alliance who openly declare that their principal enemy is Russia.

People who try to draw superficial comparisons between Ukraine and Iraq are lying by omission because literally everything about this is different.

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So if Ukraine couldn’t defend itself due to US support, then the comparison would have been accurate?

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“If the situation was entirely different, would this comparison be accurate?”

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If Ukraine couldn’t defend itself due to US support, there would have been no war in the first place.

The threat of NATO having bases ON the Russian border is why this war is happening.

But don't take it from me, take it from this guy

Or better yet, how about the CIA?

They knew in 2008 that this was THE red line for Russia, then laughed and crossed it anyway, and it played out EXACTLY as their analysts said it would

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History, what even is it?

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