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And not all Jewish people support Israel! I have to assume many understand what’s going on and side with Palestine.

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What does “side with Palestine” mean? I side with the innocent people unjustly targeted in both Israel and Palestine, Israel has tolerated completely unjust treatment of Palestinians as well as done it as a state. But, groups like HAMAS also fire missiles at innocent civilians. Not to mention the many nations that have tried to unprovoked invade Israel. I’m not saying the Israeli government is innocent, it’s not, but it’s more complicated than just “siding with Palestine” being the right answer.

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the many nations that have tried to unprovoked invade Israel

If we go far back in the history of the land… that list goes all the way to the paleolithic, and includes Israel itself. Some call it the “promised land”, “holy land”, and stuff like that, but in practice it looks more like the “cursed land”.

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If we go less far back, you’ll find the point where the Roman’s conquered the lands, kicked out all the Jews and renamed it to Palestina to spite them.

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I just meant siding with the people being forced out of their homes by Israel and placed under heavy surveillance while under constant threat of attack. I can’t blame them for wanting to fight back.

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Yeah I agree, I side with the innocent people, not necessarily all the semi-state entities in Palestine.

I can’t blame them for wanting to fight back.

With attacking innocent civilians I can.

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The state of tribalism where when someone points out something isn’t simplistic clear “good vs evil” all the time they are suddenly “Enlightened centrism”

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I’ve been to Jewish gatherings where they had duplicates of some food products because half of them insisted on eating an Israeli brand and half of them refused to.

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Yes, I’m one of them. But again, that’s not the audience I’m worried about. I’m not worried about what the mainstream thinks of Jews, or Jews think of Jews, I am worried about the feedback loop between far right influencers who promote conspiracy theories and the disaffected media consumers that they radicalize into violence. This kind of behavior is fuel for a very dangerous cycle.

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I don’t disagree with this. Far right radicalization is a huge problem.

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And not all the people that support Israel are Jewish nor are being paid by Jews to do so. Many understand that Hamas is a fascist regime and simply don’t like fascism.

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