Comment by GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com on Listen here, kulak...

It seems like they believe they can be a gardener vs a farmer. That’s the only bit that I see that isn’t realistic.

In all likelihood they would be neither. With modern technology, we don’t need a large percent of the population farming. I realize communists typically eliminate the intellectuals and kulaks—those who would actually have useful knowledge—first, but the smart things would be to have the current farmers keep farming. You’d likely be assigned to a factory to manufacture widgets for the rest of your days.

Eh, so do Communists but they just eliminated them on industrial scales.

I wonder if there’s a term for how the far right and the far left tend to be similar…

There is but horseshoe theory is not well regarded in political science circles because it hasn’t held up.

“Horseshoe theory”

Both can be offensively violent but the types of people drawn to either vary widely. For example I cannot say I know any socialists who were individually racist (as opposed to racist by virtue of being American as structural racism runs deep).

Horseshoe theory is bullshit

If I kill its because I’m defending myself, if you kill its because you are violent!

Say both sides…

Are you seriously trying to say that communist governments haven’t committed mass murder on an industrial scale just to fortify their power structures?

Which one is defensively violent? Hexbears said I should get nuked and they claim to exist on the left (they present as alt-righty if you ask me)

You are unfamiliar with the altright if you think hexbear is at all right. They are leftists and many are revolutionary leftists but no one there for long is altright.

For fucks sake this al, comes about from the ChapoTrapHouse subreddit getting banned.

defensively violent and authoritarian out of self-preservation

LOL

The irony here is that if you actually had two cows in the late 1920’s USSR you’d catch a bullet.

I believe it’s holocaust trivialization

https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory

No it’s a “theory” that has not been demonstrated to hold up and isn’t granted a lot of respect in political science circles.

While certain aspects can be shared, such as a greater appreciation for authoritarianism, the actual beliefs are so incredibly different and the people drawn to them are so different that the “theory” doesn’t work.

I’m calling horseshoe theory holocaust trivialization. Well, I’m linking to a Jewish holocaust expert doing that.

Assuming technology didn’t take a dive bomb that would be automated fairly quickly as well, look at how much robotics already does in manufacturing.

Most people would be reassigned as IT and programmers, robotics technicians, etc. If it was actually done properly.

There’s already like 10 times as many programmers and whatnot then there need to be. Look at how many duplicates apps there are for everything.

More likely they would be booted out as well

The system encourages those people to engage in the arms race for the next killer app to earn boatloads of money and win the game of capitalism. Finding people who are genuinely interested in maintaining the infrastructure that makes any of that possible is the problem.

Do they eliminate intellectuals? The USSR and China seem to have avoided this. I don’t believe most nations did this other than Cambodia and I will never see that shitshow as socialist.

USSR despised and fought the Intelligentsia, sending them to gulags

They got to the moon using what people exactly?

In the USSR it was kind of mixed. If you were at all associated with the old regime you were fucked but tbh a lot of them weren’t super sympathetic anyway.

In China, lol. They fucking murdered everyone who knew anything and then suffered horribly for it. Of course, even then they might have been somewhat okay except Mao thought he knew better so they got the Great Leap Forward and stuff like the Four Pests campaign.

Do they eliminate intellectuals? The USSR and China seem to have avoided this.

You are fucking kidding, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge

And the part where they believe to have any freedoms whatsoever IS realistic? Or the part where they believe to actually be alive and not die in the next famine is realistic?

I see very little realism here…

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