You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments View context
53 points

Until the filibuster is gone or there are 60 dem senators, a vote on universal healthcare will just be performative. You’re not going to get any Republicans voting for that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
30 points

And then? Let it be performative. Make it the top issue every single day. Make sure nothing gets done until it gets done. Tie to budget, tie it to cabinet appointments, tie it feel good bills that do nothing. A single issue that shuts the government down until resolved. Eventually it will be. The DNC keeps playing nice and keeps failing.

permalink
report
parent
reply
34 points

Republicans: Democrats want to shut down the government??

No. Wait. Stop.

See, your problem is in thinking Republicans want a functioning government.

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points

Some of them don’t even want a functioning world and are actively trying to end it for all of us to bring the day of the rapture closer

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Seriously, if the GOP could have excuses to call for budget cuts and ending programs, and they didn’t even have to be the ones to come up with ways to stop the government from functioning in the first place? A dream come true for them

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Almost as wild as the turkies actually voting for Christmas.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I didn’t realize you were talking about Republicans at first because of how bad they’ve gotten. I don’t even question it anymore with how normalized their evil policies have gotten.

I think they were a lot better at covering this up until 2010 when the Tea Party took hold. Since then they’ve been more and more blatant about it, culminating in totally taking off the mask in 2016. It seems to me that beforehand, the party elite carefully curated both their image and policies to have plausible deniability. With them losing control to the inmates however, the party hasn’t just thrown away their cover, they’ve decided to go for even worse policies.

It’s like they realized their followers are a cult, and they’re curious to see if anything they do goes too far to them. It’s such a pathetic state of affairs.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*

I think most republican voters simply care more about “other people can’t get a free thing that I had to pay for” or “I don’t want universal healthcare because I’m healthy and I don’t need it”. Which are both incredibly selfish mindsets. The GOP knows about these mindsets and does everything they can to encourage them.

I think they now are so far gone that they find it easier to convince voters by spreading propaganda than it is to win people with good policies. I think part of it is that on the policy front, there’s stiff competition. But on the identity politics front, it’s not even a competition. The GOP is massively better at propaganda and identity politics. They know they’re better at it, which is why they’ve leaned so heavily into it while also having so little else to offer. Fixing problems often gets in the way of profit, so they don’t have an incentive to actually fix many problems (at least not for normal people).

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Well then perhaps the Democrats ought to engage in progressive theatrics as fascist theatrics seem to be effective.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

This idea you seem to have that Democrat=progressive should have been fixed by now.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I don’t. I’m just pointing out that populist messages don’t have to be fascist populist messages.

permalink
report
parent
reply

politics

!politics@lemmy.world

Create post

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to “Mom! He’s bugging me!” and “I’m not touching you!” Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That’s all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

Community stats

  • 15K

    Monthly active users

  • 16K

    Posts

  • 473K

    Comments