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In an interview on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, Shapiro said everyone who goes to the Department of Motor Vehicles to get a new or renewed driver’s license will be automatically registered to vote, unless the individual chooses to opt out.

That’s not quite automatic, but still a great step

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It’s like that in other states. You get or renew your license/ID and part of that form is voting registration.

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The main difference is opt in vs opt out. Still not the same as automatic registration

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Why would you opt in every time? I’ve renewed my license twice and nothing changed about my voting info. There’s a lot of other government forms that have voting registration on them too.

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In Canada, there’s a box you can tick on your taxes to pass along your info to Elections Canada. Not sure how hard this would be to implement as well.

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The trick is getting the fourth line to connect with the first line

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goddamn we’ve been trying to get motor voter legislation for 30+ years… and the conservatives know more voters is their death knell so they’ve fought it tooth and nail everywhere. GOOD ON PA.

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It’s calculated to devalue the votes of city dwellers who don’t have or need a license. Still, more voters is always good.

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Its not calculated that way. Dems are the only group pushing automatic register voters anywhere, and they aren’t going to cut into their city advantage if possible.

Its done this way because it’s logistically simpler to implement, and DMVs tend to handle ID cards as well for those that dont drive.

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What? How does getting easier access to registration for one group cut out the existing conditions for access from another?

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I don’t necessarily agree in this case that it’s specifically calculated to do this but the idea is that it’s not taking away an option from another group it’s just only opening up a new option to a certain subset of a group.

Hypothetically, if two groups have 100 voters each right now they’re split 50-50 right? Now this rule comes out and it means that for group A, 50 new people who had previously gone unregistered are now suddenly registered automatically but for group B only 25 new people are registered automatically, then now suddenly A has 150 registered voters but B has only 125. A suddenly has an advantage they didn’t have before because their group benefited disproportionately from adding that method of registering.

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Those people get government IDs. It’s the same form.

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They could. But why would they?

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You already need an ID to vote in PA, which is itself problematic, but automatic registration is purely an improvement

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You can still get an ID without getting a liscense…

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