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You realize such laws have existed in most countries for a very long time, right?

Hate speech is illegal in most of the modern world, and has been for quite some time.

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The US had similar hate-speech rules to that of the rest of Europe, until the US civil rights era presented the court the opportunity to decide whether Martin Luther King’s anti-racism speech was, as charged, “hate speech”.

Long story short, the court decided that it couldn’t define what ‘hate speech’ was and so decided that it shouldn’t be against the law (or that the First should protect it). That’s why Nazis are allowed to march and have their rallies protected by the First Amendment, all because southern US states wanted to charge the speakers of anti-white-supremacy with ‘hate speech’ and that was a quick-and-dirty way to disarm them.

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Yet we have good and clear ideas of what hate speech is now, so in whatever new government we build, it needs to be banned.

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Yeah, they used to be called Blasphemy laws. Still doesn’t make it excusable.

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I have no idea what you are talking about, to be honest. Never heard of those.

But Blasphemy is extremely different from Hate. Canada, for example, goes into explicit legal detail on what counts as Hate and constitutes a Hate Crime.

And Blasphemy has nothing to do with that discussion, nor have I ever heard of this concept, so either you are talking about something else entirely, or perhaps you have to link to what you are talking about?

When I look the term “Blasphemy Laws” up, it brings up something that has nothing to do with Hate Crimes. Did you perhaps use the wrong term?

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Throwaway’s thing seems to be making shallow bad rightwing takes and backing them up with nothing of substance. I don’t think they are engaging genuinely.

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Pakistan has a one of the more remarkably bad histories with blasphemy laws, if you’re looking for examples. I think they’re not uncommon in Muslim majority countries. Western nations had similar laws as well, but I think you have to go back a couple centuries to find them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_in_Pakistan

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Boiled down, theyre laws against arbritary speech. Sure they might define it, but those definitions always leave enough wiggle room to abuse.

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