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It’s also talks like this (or rather the threat of this) that got Trump elected. Guns in America are not going away.

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That’s just idiots being idiots and an election system that doesn’t make sense.

Gun owners that are dumb enough to make gun ownership their only compass to decide who to vote for even if it goes against their general best interests would have voted Republican no matter who was there as a candidate.

In the meantime here’s reality when you’re the country with the most guns/people

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting

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Gun owners that are dumb enough to make gun ownership their only compass to decide who to vote for even if it goes against their general best interests would have voted Republican no matter who was there as a candidate.

There are a lot of single issue voters out there, who will vote for whoever takes their stance on their one issue regardless of anything else.

Frankly, this is one Democrats need to drop - any bill they might pass is either a violation of citizen’s constitutional rights or isn’t going to do much to curb actual gun violence. At the same time “Democrats want to take away your constitutional right to bare arms” is one of the easiest wedges to draw people to vote for ever-shittier Republicans. And most of the people doing the shooting don’t particularly care if their gun is owned legally or not.

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The Constitution has been amended in the past and could still be amended and it wouldn’t be the first time that an amendment removed a right to ownership.

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You’re preaching to the choir. But that doesn’t change anything. Those idiots are a massive number of voters, and they were willing to elect an obvious terrible presidential candidate because of the threat of losing their guns.

Even if democrats wanted this, there is literally no path we could take towards this. So saying, “get rid of your guns and you won’t have a problem” is the least helpful thing somebody could say.

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Have you considered… not making the threat?

No, surely it’s the voter’s faults for rejecting candidates for their stated positions…

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Guns aren’t the issue that makes fascists vote fascist. Even if you make gun violence activist shut up completely they’ll just lie and say they’re under threat anyway or that trans people are going to steal their children or Christians will be banned from buying gas stoves. Every single Democrat not appropriately muzzling themselves isn’t what causes Republicans to vote Republican.

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Yes please use the GVA as a source of truth…NPR and Mother Jones both called out that site as bullshit.

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It’s just a list of all shootings in the USA, that’s data without analysis.

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Gotta vote for the fascists so we can have our personal arms in case the fascists take power.

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One could suspect blue team politics of having stock in Ruger etc. given the sheer extent to which firearm sales spike every time in reaction to blue team’s nonsensical ban rhetoric.

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