Just 1% of people are responsible for half of all toxic emissions from flying.

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Fossil fuel use in non-aviation transportation makes up almost 26% of the CO2 emissions globally. Don’t be ridiculous. I have said multiple times that there are much more impactful ways to make a big dent in CO2 emissions that don’t require people to live isolated from their families. You’re being dishonest.

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And planes aren’t as efficient as cars for the same mileage traveled and people use then to travel longer distances than they would if they went on vacation by car. Even better if trains as an alternative.

As far as emissions are concerned, planes are the worst to transport both people and goods and should be limited to what is absolutely necessary.

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planes aren’t as efficient as cars for the same mileage traveled

Again, that’s not true unless you’re talking about short distances for which plane travel is not even practical. A plane can carry up to 800 passengers to a destination. It would take 200 cars minimum to move the same number of people and their output would be nearly triple that of a plane. Cars use the same amount of fuel to move, start, and stop. Planes use most of their fuel use on takeoff and landing since they’re essentially gliders once in the air.

planes are the worst to transport both people and goods

Citation needed. You can’t just make claims like that without any kind of evidence considering that the statement is flat out not true.

https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector

Automotive transport makes up 12% of emissions - 4x that of airline travel.

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Airplanes have a consumption equivalent of 3.5L/100km/passenger. A car with two passengers is equal to that, more passengers and cars win. Take more than CO2 into consideration? Looks even worse for planes as they don’t have an equivalent to a catalytic converter. Is 8.5T kilometers enough data?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_economy_in_aircraft

How about if we take contrails into consideration?

https://www.science.org/content/article/aviation-s-dirty-secret-airplane-contrails-are-surprisingly-potent-cause-global-warming

A 2011 study suggests that the net effect of these contrail clouds contributes more to atmospheric warming than all the carbon dioxide (CO2) produced by planes since the dawn of aviation.

Man, that sure doesn’t look good for airplanes does it? Imagine if we started talking about leaded fuel still used for piston engines (but let’s not go there…)

https://tedb.ornl.gov/data/

The same amount of cargo can be transported much more efficiently by rail or by boat.

But hey, you’re just proving my original point right, “regular people” who travel by plane don’t want to be told that they too are part of the issue and that they should feel bad about their choice. Guess it’s too hard for you guys to imagine living like the majority of the world’s population that will never take a plane in their lifetime and that won’t be visiting anything past a few hundred kilometers away from where they live… Oh the agony! Right?

It’s funny cuz you don’t even realize that traveling by plane means you’re already part of an elite when looking at it on a global scale.

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