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And how will they get educated if you don’t talk to them.

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They are not capable of

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This is a terrible position to take. Anyone can be educated.

The thing is, nobody likes being flat-out told they’re wrong, and with the way arguments on the internet go, that’s all that will ever happen.

Most of my friends are heavily conservative, but I’ve learned how to have productive conversations with them about issues, and it’s almost always “This is how it benefits you if it were different.”

It’s difficult sometimes, but it’s worth doing, and it’s important to understand that the guy you’re talking to isn’t the enemy. He’s just another dude.

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One of the biggest problems left/liberal leaning people have when debating is concerned, is they’re often convinced they, and their viewpoints, are superior and this should be obvious to everyone.

As a result, they’re often completely unable to make a case for their beliefs when challenged. They never thought they would need to.

Being able to actually make a case for your beliefs requires actually understanding them, and knowing the downsides ahead of time.

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This is a bit of an unrealistic position, especially if trying to generalise past the boundaries of your friend group. Your friends trust you, so by all means, talk to them and try to educate them. But trying to change a complete stranger’s mind is almost impossible.

And many of the positions the left refuses to “debate” are that certain groups of people should not be able to exist within society. Like, the left isn’t refusing to debate tax policy, it’s always about bigotry.

And let’s just be perfectly blunt. The vast majority of conservatives screaming “groomer” at visibly LGBT+ people aren’t going to have their minds changed. You can’t educate someone who does not want to be educated. And demanding minorities stand in the firing-line and fruitlessly try to educate the people who hate them, sometimes to the point of hate-crimes, forever… You have to question the priorities of such a demand.

Sometimes caring for minorities means giving up on convincing hateful people.

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