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all presidents are terrible

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So, more-or-less equally terrible or would you say that there’s a rough ranking to it? Who’s making it into the list of top 10 worst?

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I’d put Grant at least terrible – he was still a genocidier but at least he tried to push through a real reformation in the South after the civil war. worst? I barely know where to start, there’s so many good choices.

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Lincoln least terrible, Trump funniest, Obama the most disappointing,

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No Nixon is the least terrible, he had the conscience to resign. Also made the EPA and OSHA, ended Vietnam, created universal dialysis, and opened trade with China. Lincoln still presided over native genocide

This is a half joke fyi

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You’re asking who the best manager was at the factory that turns children into sausages. America itself is ontologically evil and no president can salvage or reform it.

Abraham Lincoln is the closest a president came to being good, and even he was complicit in genocide. Every other president is equally terrible, on a scale of goofy evil to soullessly evil because the office of president is to administer a genocide machine. Jimmy Carter is one of the former presidents who seems aware that he’s going to hell when he dies and is probably a little remorseful, but that doesn’t excuse him at all. Theodore Roosevelt also seemed aware he was evil, but that might have just been his vanity.

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Fair enough, I suppose with 46 of them they all sort of blend together after a point. I too have a soft-spot for Lincoln… so I suppose it’s some small consolation for me that we’ll one day have a chance to meet each other in hell

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