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In addition to what the other guy said:

  • not wanting to give up drugs

  • not wanting to give up pets

  • not wanting to give up the support structure (services, charities, other homeless) that they’ve spent a long time building up

  • straight up mental incapacity to live by themselves (schizophrenia, etc)

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None of these are a simple desire to be unhoused.

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Sure, but no one was talking about that.

None of those things are cookies.

None of those things are Hegelian dialectics.

We could do this all day but I don’t see the point.

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Yes, they were. They were saying that for a majority, they simply don’t want a home.

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Housing first doesn’t have to interfere with any of that. A reasonable home will allow you to have a pet. They’ll need those support structures on the street or off, it wouldn’t make sense to cut them off. Anyone with a mental health issue is ONLY going to have a better time with a safe, private space they can call their own, and housing first means there’s no stipulation to getting off drugs, until you’re ready.

Redefine housing as the FIRST step and not the pot of gold at the end of the societal expectation rainbow, and you’ll get a lot further.

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Yes, so we need to be offering more than just housing, but rather a whole package.

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Yeah? I don’t think I, of anyone else, proposed only housing ever.

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