tl;dr They’re spending 90% less over the past 3 months than they did 3 mo before acquisition

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Are there any legal implications when knowingly lying about the profitability of a privately held company like X?

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She’s not lying, she’s just not saying the whole truth. It’s totally true advertisers are returning.

They’re returning at a steep discount.

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Plus some are leaving faster then others are returning.

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Unlikely. There aren’t any shareholders to screw over and it doesn’t look like Musk has any desire to sell Twitter at the moment (I refuse to call it X).

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Jack Dorsey, a clutch of Saudis, and at least one bank have multiple billions of dollars still invested. When I read that Dorsey was leaving a bit over a billion on the table by not cashing out at $54.20. I assumed that he had done a back room deal where Musk agreed to redeem Dorsey’s shares at $54.20 no matter the current valuation, and that recently came out as being the case. I assume he had to make a similar agreement with the Saudis, but the bank has already marked down their investment by about 70%.

Still, Musk remains the most fucked since he’s not only on the hook for the $1B per year interest payments but also is still the largest single investor. I suspect between hemorrhaging money, guaranteed buy backs, and loss of value versus TSLA or whatever else he used for collateral that he’s going to lose more than his $40B stake. That would be quite the feat, and I’d love to celebrate it by sending a bottle of champagne to him at Twitter HQ.

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But not real champagne, that’s cruel

(To the tune of “If I had a Million Dollars”)

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What an ingenious strategy! Only a true business genius could do that.

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Yeah, but Musk can afford to lose $20 billion, unlike basically everyone else in the entire world. Musk didn’t put in $40b. It was 20 from him, a couple from Saudis, 10 from Larry Ellison and 13 from bank loans.

Interesting about Dorsey. I still wonder about the horrifying statement about the sale, “Elon is the singular solution I trust. I trust his mission to extend the light of consciousness”. Now I wonder, was he actually that deluded or was that only Elron manipulation?

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Yes, if they lie on anything official then it’s investor fraud.

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No investors, it’s a private firm by musk who took loans against it.

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