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Thing also is that those people were also hated during thier time and also called terrorists. There’s no good options for a leader sadly.

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I was alive when Nelson Mandela was active, and he wasn’t called a terrorist in the west.

He was revered as a hero by many in the West, just like Navalny is revered today.

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He literally WAS a terrorist. He ran the ANC’s terrorist wing. People called him a terrorist and it was accurate.

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By Reagan and the establishment, yes.

But many western people and institutions were definitely promoting and supporting him from the very beginning.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_honours_received_by_Nelson_Mandela

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A lot of people seem the think he was only regarded well once released from prison. I certainly didn’t know much about him until then.

Yet Only Fools and Horses was made in 1981, and they lived in Nelson Mandela House. So even in the UK we knew South Africa was on the wrong side of history. And we should know, we wrote most of it…

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But Hamas does very textbook terrorist things, seems to me like they are actually terrorists.

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As opposed to the resistants (including many Jews) during WW2 who were literally called terrorists by Nazis ?

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As opposed to the IDF that’s been terrorizing Palestinians constantly?

It’s terrorists in both sides. Unfortunately civilians are the ones caught in the crossfire.

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So were the IRA…

And yet now here we are with Sinn Fein holding elected positions.

At some point there has to be dialogue otherwise you just keep killing one another.

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As opposed to the ANC? Who literally had a terrorist wing run by Mandela?

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