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25 points

I sure would like to read the actual ruling, but from what I see in the article, this applies to pedal assist e-bikes, and wouldn’t apply to e-bikes that have a throttle which is operated by a way other than pedaling (like a thumb or twist throttle). I have to think there’s a maximum speed and/or weight as well, otherwise someone could very easily build a large, heavy, highway-ready “e-bike” that just uses pedaling for the throttle, but is in every other way an electric motorcycle.

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23 points

Of course EU regulations, contrary to the US, limit pedal-assist bikes to a maximum continuous rated power of no more than 250 W and a speed to 25 km/h before cutting out power, leaving you to rely your legs for more speed.

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10 points

its the same rules in Australia, but every bike seems to just have a 250W firmware limit that everyone just bypasses and then rides like a dick.

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5 points

How is that contrary to the US? The US has limits that are higher, not contrary.

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1 point

250’s pretty low espically for hill climbing

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250W is the EU’s legal limit for continuous power, measured by its heat output over a 30 minute test. So with better cooling you can legally build stronger motors.
My pedelec has a motor that can output 600W, yet is perfectly legal and EU certified.

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8 points

It is plenty, as long as the torque is sufficient. When mountainbiking I have never felt I would need more power, even on climbs where keeping the front wheel down is tricky. Of course you cannot sustain 25 km/h on steeper hills, but do you even need to?

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It’s not low. It’s more than the average human can deliver. And humans can hill climb easily. Double your power and no hill is too hard for you.

Just don’t buy useless shit with a motor wheel. The motor should deliver power through your drivetrain.

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