Google has plunged the internet into a “spiral of decline”, the co-founder of the company’s artificial intelligence (AI) lab has claimed.

Mustafa Suleyman, the British entrepreneur who co-founded DeepMind, said: “The business model that Google had broke the internet.”

He said search results had become plagued with “clickbait” to keep people “addicted and absorbed on the page as long as possible”.

Information online is “buried at the bottom of a lot of verbiage and guff”, Mr Suleyman argued, so websites can “sell more adverts”, fuelled by Google’s technology.

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12 points

I already go to ChatGPT more than Google. If you pay for it then the latest version can access the internet and if it doesn’t know the answer to something it’ll search the internet for you. Sometimes I come across a large clickbait page and I just give ChatGPT the link and tell it to get the information from it for me.

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49 points

Do you fact-check the answers?

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It depends what you’re using it for as to whether you need to fact check stuff.

I’m a software developer and if I can’t remember how to do an inner join in SQL then I can easier ask ChatGPT to do it for me and I will know if it is right or not as this is my field of expertise.

If I’m asking it how to perform open heart surgery on my cat, then sure I’m probably going to want several second opinions as that is not my area of expertise.

When using a calculator do you use two different calculators to check that the first one isn’t lying?

Also, you made a massive assumption that the stuff OP was using it for was something that warranted fact checking.

I can see why you would use it. Why would I want to search Google for inner joins sql when it is going to give me so many false links that don’t give me the info in need in a concise manner.

Even time wasting searches have just been ruined. Example: Top Minecraft Java seeds 1.20. Will give me pages littered with ads or the awful page 1-10 that you must click through.

Many websites are literally unusable at this point and I use ad blockers and things like consent-o-matic. But there are still pop up ads, sub to our newsletter, scam ads etc. so much so that I’ll just leave the site and forego learning the new thing I wanted to learn.

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2 points

The new release of GPT-4 searches Bing, reads the results, summarizes, and provides sources, so it’s easier to fact check than ever if you need to.

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It’s pretty trivial to fact check an answer… You should start using this kind of bots more. Check perplexity.ai for a free version.

Sources are referenced and linked.

Don’t judge on chatgpt free version

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It’s pretty trivial to fact check an answer

People don’t do it though and often parrot bullshit.

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Perplexity.ai has been my go to for this reason.

It often brings up bad solutions to a problem and checking the sources it references shows it regulary misses the gist of these sources.

There sources it selects are often not the ones I end up using. They are starting point, but not the best starting point.

What it is good for is for finding content when I don’t know the terminology of the domain. It is a starting point ready to lead me astray with exquisitely written content.

Find trustworthy sources and use them.

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25 points

give it time, algos will fuck those results as well

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2 points

They’ll need to make money with a cheap cost-per-sale, so they’ll put ads on the site. Then they’ll put promoted content in the AI chat, but it’s okay because they’ll say it’s promoted. Eventually it won’t even say it’s promoted and it will just be all ads, just like every other tech company.

Why? Because monetization leads directly to enshittification, because the users stop being the customers.

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When I tried it it was never able to give me the sources of what it said. And it has given me way too many made up answers to just trust it without reasons. Having to search for sources after it said something has made me skip the middle man(machine).

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You probably tried the free version. Check perplexity.ai to see how the paid version of chatgpt works. Every source is referenced and linked.

This guy is not talking about the current version of free chatgpt. He’s talking of the much better tools that will be available in the next few years

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Yeah, because people selling AI products have a great track record on predicting how their products will develop in the future. Because of that, Teslas don’t have steering wheels any more, because Full Self Driving drives people incident-free from New York to California since 2017.

The thing with AI development is, that it rapidly gets to 50% of the desired solution, but then gets stuck there, not being able to get consistently good enough that you can actually rely on it.

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ChatGPT powers Bing Chat, which can access the internet and find answers for you, no purchase necessary (if you’re not on edge, you might need to install a browser extension to access it as they are trying to push edge still).

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Do you fact-check the answers?

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That’s such a strange question. It’s almost like you imply that Google results do not need fact checking.

They do. Everything found online does.

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12 points

With google, it depends on what webpage you end up on. Some require more checking than others, which are more trustworthy

Generative AI can hallucinate about anything

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Agree.

I found it more tempting to accept the initial answers I got from GPT4 (and derivatives) because they are so well written. I know there are more like me.

With the advent of working LLMs, reference manuals should gain importance too. I check them more often than before because LLMs have forced me to. Could be very positive.

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