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59 points

Good for them, we need way more of this.

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34 points

Honestly yes, I don’t think people truly realise how deeply in the shitter we are. Best outcome would be to duck off with it now, in a year. Carbon zero. But this won’t happen.

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If you use any modern product you wint be carbon zero. So please stop wearing clothes, using the internet , living in a home, eating any type of food.

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3 points

You’re right, since the only two options are the destruction of the planet or to stop using literally anything ever at all, I guess I’ll fucking kill myself now

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Yes? That’s why we’d have to go after the corporations, the problem arises at production. Truth is we’re overpopulated because of the bosch-haber cycle, which is fueled by fossil fuels.

The alternative is certain extinction

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How about we lower our collective emissions by tossing you into a volcano, instead? Would you like that?

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I think most people are more than aware of climate change and climate change issue

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As a matter of fact they are not. Otherwise we would see a drastic shift in policy and voting behaviour, given how strongly the climate changed in the past decade. But instead people vote conservative and reactionary again, after they lost their homes in wildfires, floods and storms that can be reliably linked to climate change, and whose occurence renders their home area unliveable in the long run.

We had a flood two years ago in Germany killing over 200 people. Our former conservative party, now populist reactionary, removed a law for flood protection just two month prior to the devastating flood. And the people most affected voted for them again in the upcoming election. And that was after the parties chancellor candidate laughed heartily in the background while the president held a speech mourning the victims.

The people are either dumb, or ignorant or both. They’d rather die than change anything in the slightest way.

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Go on Facebook and look for the comment section of news coverage on EVs or anything climate related. They are at most vaguely familiar with the issue, or deny it in some shape or form

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-5 points

No we don’t, this disruptive behavior just makes people angry against you, it doesn’t do anything for your goals, even if you have good intentions.

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30 points

I agree. It’s time to stop the nonviolent protests and start the violent protests.

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Unfortunately, being angry for our cause is better than being apathetic towards our cause, so we’ll take what we can get while the planet melts and ecosystems die.

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I really disagree with this premise.

For example, where I’ve worked, I’ve generally found it easy to make improvements that solely benefit the environment, even though they are virtually always more expensive and carry no other advantages, and often additional disadvantages.

Since the more recent protests, though, and especially after we all nearly lost our jobs due to the antics of a handful of protestors, that support has just gone. Being greener is no longer and end unto itself, and people don’t want to either be seen as supporting their cause or ‘helping’ the people who cause real problems for everyday people.

It may not be logical, but even I am quieter about my environmentism because I don’t really want to be associated with people who proudly block ambulances and cause pain for thousands of regular people.

Because ultimately, nobody’s going to ‘just stop’. We’re not here due to the scheming of a few people, there are a lot of reasons oil is currently so ubiquitous, and fixing it is going to be a fairly gradual process. Fortunately, oil isn’t the only way we can fix emissions, and so progress over spans of a decade or two, when that progress is going in parallel, can yield dramatic results.

My concern is that antics like these are going to slow or even reverse some of the political will to suffer the short term pain required to make these changes as quickly as we need.

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-4 points

Nobody being angry at you even listens to your course thatd the point.

Its like spitting in someone’s face and telling them their shoes are untied.

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-3 points

Amen

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No don’t if your going protest do it right your not sending a message by disrupting someone’s nice day out your just going be a nuisance plus why a gaming convention what the fuck does a gaming convention have to do with the environment

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30 points

100% agree. Just being a nuisance isn’t enough. These protestors really ought to be attacking fossil fuel execs.

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7 points

folks need to start causing real, material damage to fossil infrastructure at the least

this wont stop unless the expenses of fossil fuels outweigh the profits, and people need to become those expenses

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That’s a more ideal way of doing targeting big businesses and fossil fuel execs through peaceful forms of protesting a good example of this is how some people in London and Glasglow are protesting ULEZ by vandalising ULEZ cameras if your going protest make sure it doesn’t affect anyone in the general public

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3 points

You do it then. Be the change you want to see in this world.

It still wouldn’t change anything, other then get more security and anonymity for their immediate replacements.

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2 points

Yeah exactly, that would be protesting against the actual problem not jsut disrupting random shit

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-7 points

What a thing to cowardly type from behind your keyboard you wanker.

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14 points

What do you recommend? not being disruptive means you are completely ignored by everyone.

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-4 points

Not every attention is good attention.

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Well There’s plenty of ways of protesting and getting the word out that don’t involve getting in the way or destroying/nicking property you can have peaceful demonstrations ideally populated like a city square where you and a massive crowd of people gather and make your voices heard im fairly certain that’s called a rally or you use art as a way of protesting graffiti etc you can also boycott a organisation or government institution and you can do a picket protest as well

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