Comment by anteaters@feddit.de on Unlike previous attempts at trying reddit alternatives (like Voat), kbin and much of the lemmyverse doesn’t seem to be plagued with extreme far right buffoonery.

It’s one thing to have differing views, but I’ve seen enough attempted reddit migrations to be relieved that the popular communities in the fediverse so far haven’t been about crazy racist stuff or other extreme right bullshit.

I am also glad that I’m getting away from reddit’s general political shitposting, which was more left leaning. You couldn’t have any proper discourse on there, and even I with my generally more left leaning views recognized that.

Voat was created as an alternative for all the nazis that got banned on Reddit so it was always designed to be full of shit. This sphere of the fediverse managed to keep clear of these people. They are able to create their own sphere that is not federated with this one but that is not a problem for us here.

Wasn’t it spun off/got popular because fatpeoplehate or something got banned? It was just a hole for shit crawl towards to for their freeze peach.

Yeah, that was the explicit event that set things off, so it’s hardly surprising it went the way it did.

Haha, I remember that Reddit episode. Yes, fatpeoplehate getting clubbed created the first wave of filth wandering off. Banning r/incels and r/pizzagate and the other nonsense around qanon helped Reddit shed off some more.

I’m surprised there isn’t a fat people hate here. They got all sorts of politics from that group.

It probably exists in some obscure instance somewhere. I don’t like that kind of content though, so I won’t be looking for it and will be blocking it if it ever shows up in my feed.

I’m gonna take a big guess as to why we see less of ‘em. It may be a bit complicated for them to join. Many are used to a one-stop-shop website. Strength in numbers, I suppose.

I mean, there instances that exist as havens for far right folks. But they are not defeated with the bulk of the instances. See the exploding heads thing.

And main original dev is apparently a “tankie” which appears to be a communist apologist of some kind. For this part I’m just reporting what I’ve seen others say. I know nothing about him myself.

A tankie is a Soviet communist apologist/Stalin fetishist. Communism by itself isn’t something you need to really defend in that way, as it just means that the plan is to distribute the means of production and decision making abilities. For example Tito in Yugoslavia held a multiethnic state in the fucking Balkans so well to the point that people still identify as Yugoslavs even if its not an ethnicity but a state affiliation for a country that hasnt existed for 30 years. Same thing goes for Greece, WW2 would have been a complete Nazi victory if the communist partisan militias hadnt held up the Italians and Germans for so long.

The thing with tankies is that they are too blinded by ideology to notice that the Soviets and Maoists were/are just Totalitarians in disguise.

A tankie is specifically an apologist for militant authoritarians who claim to be communists. There are many, many more theories of communism than Leninism and Stalin worship.

Shit, the Fediverse is functionally an experiment in anarchism.

It’s ironic that one of the main points of Marxist communist theory is that communists shouldn’t actually need to do anything to make communism come about, that it will just be a natural evolution of a capitalist economy over time. And now it’s wound up being used as a synonym for totalitarianism.

Tankies get their name from the people in the West who still supported Soviet communism in the late 1950s and saw nothing wrong with the USSR sending tanks into Hungary to quell a worker uprising.

This is my thought exactly. As it becomes easier and easier to use these sites, with apps and everything, we will start to see more crazy and stupid conservatives.

They’re too stupid to figure it out at the moment. Most of them at least. And the ones who aren’t, are the ones who are aware that they’re ideology is trash, but they are using it for financial and/or tax reasons.

As long as they create their own spheres that aren’t federated with this one I don’t care. They’ll probably run into the same problems as Voat did and get kicked by their hosters sooner or later.

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