Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib refused to apologize Wednesday for saying on Tuesday that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion that day in Gaza, an accusation that sparked political backlash against her from Republicans as Israel denies fault.

Tlaib joined thousands of protesters calling for a ceasefire in Gaza during a solidarity rally hosted by the left-leaning group Jewish Voice for Peace at the National Mall. She was visibly emotional, at times pausing her speech to openly weep and criticizing lawmakers who have not backed a ceasefire resolution.

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Nah you only ask what happened on the 7th, you don’t want anyone to look earlier than that.

2023 was already one of the bloodiest years for Palestinians before the 7th.

Israel has been punching for years then crys when they get punched back only to punch all the harder while still playing the victim.

Ofc they have a responsibility to their own actions but I would view them like the French resistance. Paraphrasing from a BBC article on war crimes committed by the French resistance: you can commit what is morally wrong while still being on the side of righteousness.

You are removing responsibility from a state that has a duty to protect it’s people. Never mind that it was very likely they knew something was coming.

They would not kill me at all because I’m not a settler living on stolen land. If you are scared that they will kill you you’ve got to ask yourself why. Most people in the world do not live on occupied land and do not live under any such threat.

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So this is righteousness? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAFDI63yvNQ

https://imgur.io/jNUaFU2

You think the terrorist organization that took 200+ hostages of all nationalities, would hesitate to kill you. I mean, maybe you could suck up to them hard enough, I don’t doubt that. Do you see Israel running around with a plan to rape, burn, and behead Palestinians? Go to Gaza is you love Hamas so much, see what happens.

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You wouldn’t mean these hostages?

Israeli settlers and soldiers tortured, raped and murdered Palestinians in the west bank.

Israel also is imprisoning a number of Palestinians including 500-1000 children in military detention each year and currently an estimated ~150 minors in the Israeli prison system, are they not hostages?

If I go to Gaza/west bank, based on the deaths so far I’d be more likely to die by IDF stray bullets or Israeli bombs than by hamas.

You ignore Israeli crimes and just point out hamas, its exactly what you accuse me of doing.

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You’re perfectly happy eating Hamas propaganda. Again, you’re simping for terrorists and if you don’t have a problem with that, it at least speaks to your rationality in this argument. On the one hand, you’re trying to argue how bad Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is, on the other, you have to trust Hamas to do it. You don’t know anything about what has happened to the other hostages and how they were treated. You want Hamas to seem more humane, so you extrapolate from anecdote. Watch the video that I posted. Do you see Israel doing that? Are they invading Gaza and gunning down random Palestinians?

You keep trying to draw equivalences but you fail because you ignore the intention of the acts, which is entirely what matters in criminal cases. You pretend that Israel has prisoners, that those are hostages. No, they’re prisoners, they’re in prison because of crimes they committed. It literally does not matter if they’re children, you don’t get to roam around and be a danger to society just because you’re under 18. You have no idea what those children have done, yet you freely pretend that they must be hostages and big bad Israel is wrong for keeping them incarcerated. You’re not a legal expert and you have no clue why they’re there.

I don’t doubt that you’d be in danger of IDF if you went to Gaza, but that’s because you’d be hanging out with Hamas. Make your bed and lie in it.

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