The three words âI Canât Breatheâ refer to what some police brutality victims, like George Floyd, Eric Garner and Manuel Ellis, said before their untimely deaths at the hands of law enforcement.
Ha! Good one.
ACAB
You defend the upper classâs enforcers when you give leniency to any. Even âgoodâ cops follow the law, which is weaponized against specific (see: racist) demographics and lower-class citizens.
To defend any police officer is to perpetuate the well-designed system of oppression. A true good cop would quickly find themselves on the wrong side of history, and resign, as some in the past have done.
Itâs not. I am a red blooded American and see too many officers not held accountable for their crimes. Youâre just a bootlicker trying to get sympathy for people that arenât sympathetic.
ACAB, no exceptions, especially not former chops who still argue for them
Iâll explain for you in case youâre not trolling. We must All Cops Are Bastards because enough of them are and there is little enough oversight that when some of them do something wrong they get away with it far too often. It is therefore self defence to never trust a cop because they can fuck your life up six ways to Sunday and suffer no repercussions of note. ACAB does not mean there are no good cops, it means we must assume any given cop is a bad cop because one false negative has the potential to go so far wrong.
Your even spicier take is actually just bonkers. Itâs not a uniquely US thing, no, but it is not designed to do anything but protect us the non-cops!
What if you replaced âpoliceâ in your comment with another group of people like doctors? What if you had to be a police officer to make a living? Donât fall into the trap of generalizing a whole group of people, itâs no different than being racist. Please go after specific corrupt police departments but I can assure you that a lot of police officers join for good reasons.
Because most people who are cops are attracted to that role because of the power over others it gives them; as well as the frequently sycophantic level of respect and admiration.
âOh no, we like saving peopleâ doesnât really fly since you could also be an EMT or Firefighter or doctor, social worker. This is even more true in places with higher academic requirements.
That the cops around you know the law and abide it better than here is irrelevant.
When people follow the trend of protesting against police training centers and police officers in general it harms public safety,
If youâre gonna comment about something, you should probably look at why theyâre protesting that something.
Specifically 2 things. The first is that the local residents arenât getting a say in if that training center gets to be out there or not- they live outside Atlanta, technically, so they have no representation with the city.
Theyâre unhappy because the land is currently a green space park that will be plowed over to create an urban/suburban concrete hellhole.
Then other thing is what that hellhole will be used for: simulating lethal force being used on citizens. Most probably citizens that look a lot like they do.
Cops need more training. Thereâs no question there. They donât need more combat training.
The sentiment espoused in âACABâ comes from people who have never met a âgoodâ cop, but having met an awful lot of âmehâ cops trying to gig them on whatever they can and a fair number of bad cops who are actively looking for a reason to shoot them.
Iâd never say ACAB, mostly because I havenât met every cop.
Where I live the police are well educated and well trained.
You answered your own question right there.
Itâs like this⌠you know when you hear about some cop that has a history of violence that somehow escapes punishment right up until they kill someone? You know⌠like happens with alarming regularity?
In every circumstance there were DOZENS of officers that kept quiet. There were DOZENS of people that refused to say anything, that would go as far as lying in open court about activities, in order to protect a fucking coworker.
THAT is why all cops are bastards. They value being a cop and protecting cops more than they value PROTECTING AND SERVING THE PEOPLE THEY ARE BEING FUCKING PAID TO PROTECT AND SERVE.
They are a gang. Every force, everywhere, no exceptions.
Hereâs a better idea than throwing millions upon billions at a bunch of sociopathic cunts that donât care about anything but themselves⌠fire all of them and start paying social workers what theyâre actually worth. Instead of an armed police force you have people that live within a given community that are trained in deescalation, that know how to handle people with mental health issues, that are FAR better at handling high stress situations than any cop ever has because social work is uncaring, unforgiving, underpaid shit work that you only do if you actually want to help people and that needs to fucking change.
Defund the pigs and give their money to actual professionals.
What if you replaced the world police with doctors? Itâs not fair to generalize an entire group of people, despite their occupation or any other creed. That being said, fuck any officer, supervisor or department who supports oppressing a marginalized group to benefit rich people. It happens alarmingly regularly in our country and we need to target the groups that spread it. Its not usually the case though-people join public safety jobs because they want to help people, but feel kept down by rules about reporting every decriminalized offense they see happen and getting in trouble when they donât. I mean it about the hours too- when we were understaffed, I would work long shifts and my mental health deteriorated as a result to the point where I quit because I couldnât respond to emergencies because of sleep deprivation. As for the court stuff, I agree that courts need to scrutinize police more. We need police reform but we canât let it divide us- I implore you to listen to police and former police alongside marginalized groups for the facts.
I think Robert Higgs explained it best:
"The whole Good Cop / Bad Cop question can be disposed of much more decisively. We need not enumerate what proportion of cops appears to be good or listen to someoneâs anecdote about his uncle Charlie, an allegedly good cop.
We need only consider the following:
- A copâs job is to enforce the laws, all of them;
- Many of the laws are manifestly unjust, and some are even cruel and wicked;
- Therefore every cop has to agree to act as an enforcer for laws that are manifestly unjust or even cruel and wicked.
There are no good cops."
Would it be fair to say that you are representative of the majority demographics in your area, or even the majority of the most local powerful demographic?
The reason I ask is because I often find that the people who are confused/surprised by protests like these are not typically from members of groups who experience over-representation in the criminal justice system. As in, the people who are less likely to experience the problem first or even second hand are more surprised when the problem is finally highlighted for them through novel methods.
You are getting nothing but angry pushback, so I am here to let you know that at least one lemmite agrees with you.
I donât know if ACAB is a disinformation campaign by Russia and China, but I do know they have been stoking the division here in many ways on social media, so I feel you are not âfringe/crazyâ for wondering if it is true.
I know a few police and fire responders, who are Latino and are stand up individuals. They are not racist.
We must strive to differentiate the fiends from the people who only want to do the right thing and resist the easy trap of generalization.
