Problem-posing education does not and cannot serve the interests of the oppressor. No oppressive order could permit the oppressed to begin to question: Why?
Indeed, the interests of the oppressors lie in “changing the consciousness of the oppressed, not the situation which oppresses them”; for the more the oppressed can be led to adapt to that situation, the more easily they can be dominated.
Implicit in the banking concept [of education] is the assumption of a dichotomy between human beings and the world: a person is merely in the world, not with the world or with others…In this view, the person is not a conscious being (corpo consciente); he or she is rather the possessor of a consciousness: an empty “mind” passively open to the reception of deposits of reality from the world outside.
https://envs.ucsc.edu/internships/internship-readings/freire-pedagogy-of-the-oppressed.pdf
I’ve never heard an argument for anti-natalism that wasn’t just an extremist expression of individualism brainrot.
Children are the future. We build socialism now so that they can enjoy communism in their lifetimes.
Being born is a choice that must be made for you. The idea that it’s unfair because you didn’t consent to it is ridiculous because no one ever concievably can.
Which I guess is why anti-natalists have to rely on twisted calculations to come up with a measurement showing that existence is an objective negative for everyone (or just most people?), which is too broad a claim to even be meaningful. I’d even go further to say it’s very reductive of human sentience to be able to qualify all our experience on a spectrum from suffering to pleasure/happiness/whatever, before we start to entertain the idea that we could tally it all up.
But anyway, in short: if you think being born wasn’t worth it, I’m afraid you’re speaking for yourself. Someone had to make that choice for everyone, and it’s too complicated a question to be answered with a universal no.
There’s a difference between valuing kids as actual human beings, and wanting to bring more people into this world of suffering.
Voluntary extinction is abdicating our responsibility to undo the suffering we brought on this world and the suffering that would likely only get worse if we just all snapped out of existence.
Anti-natalism is reactionary no matter how you try to spin it.
This is a problem we created and a problem we have a responsibility to address no matter how many generations it takes.
We have already set the apocalypse into motion. To bow out now is cowardice.
and the suffering that would likely only get worse if we just all snapped out of existence.
Suffering for who?
I personally really have problems with the “world of suffering” argument because my grandparents were born born while China was being invaded by Japan after years of civil war, and my parents were born during the Great Chinese Famine.
They all had or have had more than their fair share of suffering but never once did I hear them regret their lives.
Just another misanthropic reddit edge lord. Don’t mind them.
Got a real brain genius over here
“I didn’t know lyrics were copyrighted.”
I just… What?
