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Yet you have provided no possible options as to take action. Nice work on the reply. 👍

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To provide actual discussion:

Increase rigor for screening on all firearm purchases

Removal of any and all “gun shop loopholes”

Voluntary, no questions asked, buybacks on any firearm

Two of these make it harder for new guns to enter the equation, while not making it impossible for a reasonable adult to get one, and the final drastically lowers the number of guns in circulation.

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Voluntary, no questions asked, buybacks on any firearm

That’s already a thing for the most part. You can walk into any gun/pawn shop and sell your gun there and they’ll be happy to take it off your hands AND pay 5x more than a gun buyback program from the state.

Removal of any and all “gun shop loopholes”

That was never a thing. The “loop hole” was selling private party since no individual person has access to the NICS.

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The reason you’re going to get more for a gun at a pawn shop or gun shop is because they’re going to resell them. The idea with a government initiative would be to decommission the guns.

It’s my understanding that the term “gun show loophole” is used is because it was/is a common enough practice to meet at gun shows and sell as private sellers, thus bypassing the requirements for bg checks.

I also realized now that I typed gun shop instead of gun show, so sorry if that caused confusion, I’m going to blame autocorrect.

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That’s a viable start, and both of your suggestions I am in favor of, but it will not remove the millions of firearms that are already in the hands of 1/3 of the U.S. population. It would also not prevent someone from 3D printing a ghost gun. Considering that some gun owners are also handloading / reloading their own ammo at home, you would effectively need to ban the sale of all smokeless powder as well. However, even in doing that, it would not take back the millions and millions of rounds that people already have.

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Right. And these are all valid concerns, but they exist everywhere. The end of the day, you’ll actually never remove firearms from the equation, and I’d argue you really shouldn’t. The idea is to limit the access to either people who are damned and determined (3d printers, home gunsmiths and reloaders, etc) and those who are somewhat qualified.

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It’s not perfect therefore we shouldn’t do anything

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Douche.

The answer was clearly “Try”

We haven’t even done that yet.

The path on how to start is clear enough. Voluntarily surrendering weapons, followed by mandatory, decades later we’ll see results. But I don’t think you’re the type to participate in gun control discussions in good faith.

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The fact that real kinder eggs are illegal because of safety concerns and guns are not is mindblowing.

It is easier to get a gun in the states than it is to get a kinder egg with a little toy in it.

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That’s an absolute lie. I can buy a kinder egg no questions asked online. You can’t sell them as food with plastic pieces inside them, though.

In most US states you have a huge amount of regulation on guns you need to be familiar with and of course it’s different state by state.

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Try how? Go on, what can I do right now today to start fixing the problem? See if you can answer without an insult.

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Read further down the thread.

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Again, the point is we’re not even there yet. We can theory craft all we want, and you can poke imaginary holes in every measure taken. And in the end, you will still reach the conclusion of “if it’s not perfect, why try?” and nothing will change.

So, why bother? No matter what solutions someone brings to the table, you will not be satisfied.

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