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I think they were expecting a much more restrained military response, rather than “1 out of every 200 Palestinians in Gaza is now dead, and the number is rising with no end in sight”

For comparison, from 2003-2005 in Iraq, around 30,000 civilians died, which was closer to 1 out of every 2000 Iraqis, and it was (rightly) considered a major fucking problem, both morally and strategically/politically.

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Turns out when you sell a bunch of zealots bombs and tell them they have our unconditional support…

…. They think you’re down for the genocide…

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… They think you’re down for the genocode…

We weren’t? But their skin is terrorist shade…

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no no no. We’re Liberators. We don’t do genocide. we uh. liberate. and, uhm, stuff.

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Before sending weapons, money or unconditional support (as other political leaders said) one should be sure conventions about human rights and international law in general is going to be respected. Or do they trust each other taking only the word like friends in a pub? We, westerners, are responsible for those deaths and should carry them on our conscience.

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If you’re referring to the US, they haven’t sent Israel any weapons since the October 7 attacks. They have already warned Israel to obey the rules of war. And currently the US is not considering sending bombs, only anti-missile systems for Israel alongside humanitarian aid for Gazans.

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I agree, but I don’t appreciate where the numbers come from. The Palestine Health Authority is basicly Hamas. They over report their numbers. The DoD is also keeping track which should be closer to the truth. Of course, media uses the Health Authority numbers because that’s all they get. So, if this report is to be believed it means that the DoD numbers are still too high. Looks to me, since the IDF is now engaging Hamas directly, that these numbers will only increase substantially

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I agree, but I don’t appreciate where the numbers come from. The Palestine Health Authority is basicly Hamas. They over report their numbers.

They released a list of all 6400 and change known casualties the other day (the number of casualties was a little below 7000 then), and reported an extra 200 unidentified. Like, with names and national IDs. I think any overreporting will be within the bounds of the situation being chaotic as all hell instead of anything malicious.

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First I’m hearing about Hamas being not malicious. Interesting…

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