Israeli air force launches strike upon Hospital “Hamas Base” parking lot, with an R9X missile.

For context, the image is from Reuters with info about the missile. It references a different time that the US used it to kill a terrorist leader. The video below is a hospital parking lot in gaza.

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Casualty is both dead and injured as an FYI. So not one casualty in this instance.

I agree this isn’t a good example of the IDF acting in the same vein as Hamas, but I also understand the frustration of OP, watching an organized military bomb civilians indiscriminately for a month while the majority of western world governments cheer them on while saying “please reduce the civilian slaughter, it’s getting uncomfortable to defend” in about the mildest way you can say something like that, is demoralizing at best. That we still can’t agree that unilaterally, no matter the circumstances, killing civilians in indiscriminate bombings simply can’t be accepted and needs to be condemmed in the strongest terms possible makes me disappointed in humanity and democracy.

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I understand where you are coming from, really… And I also appreciate the care that went into crafting your reply with the clear considerations to keep a neutral and rational tone, so I wish to extend the courtesy back.

The major contention I have with your position is that it is only easily justified if it were true that Israel is in fact indiscriminately bombing Palestinians. However the basis in reality to support the indiscriminate claim just doesn’t exist at the current point. In fact the specific video posted here is explicitly contradictory to that argument. Israel has developed military technology beyond nearly every other country in the world in order to precisely and discriminatorily be able to target enemy combatants in civilian dense urban areas. The roof knock bombs that IDF use prior to levelling a structure so that citizens can have time to flee the scene is a prime example as well.

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Ok, sure. But how come then the Palestinian dead number in the thousands? Were they all Hamas? Even the kids?

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Some perspective on the conflict since 2008 (which isn’t the whole timeline of course but shows how skewed it is):

https://www.statista.com/chart/16516/israeli-palestinian-casualties-by-in-gaza-and-the-west-bank/

Add in the 1300 dead Israeli civilians (and 3000 or so more injured) in the heinous Oct 7 attack and we’re still extremely skewed without even mentioning the thousands dead since Oct 7th.

I’m absolutely not supporting Hamas here. But I’m also vehemently opposed to Israel, as in the government, not the civilians. I understand there is no quick fix. But acting like Israel is the only victim in this is blood boiling.

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this is not what indiscriminate bombing looks like. Check Vietnam war footages…

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