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It’s so much easier to say that the AI decided to bomb that kindergarden based on advanced Intel, than if it were a human choice. You can’t punish AI for doing something wrong. AI does not require a raise for doing something right either

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That’s an issue with the whole tech industry. They do something wrong, say it was AI/ML/the algorithm and get off with just a slap on the wrist.

We should all remember that every single tech we have was built by someone. And this someone and their employer should be held accountable for all this tech does.

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How many people are you going to hold accountable if something was made by a team of ten people? Of a hundred people? Do you want to include everyone from designer to a QA?

Accountability should be reasonable, the ones who make decisions should be held accountable, companies at large should be held accountable, but making every last developer accountable is just a dream of a world where you do everything correctly and so nothing needs fixing. This is impossible in the real world, don’t know if it’s good or bad.

And from my experience when there’s too much responsibility people tend to either ignore that and get crushed if anything goes wrong, or to don’t get close to it or sabotage any work not to get anything working. Either way it will not get the results you may expect from holding everyone accountable

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The CEO. They claim that “risk” justifies their exorbitant pay? Let them take some actual risk, hold them criminally liable for their entire business.

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1979: A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision.

2023: A computer can never be held accountable, therefore a computer must make all decisions that are inconvenient to take accountability for.

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AI does not require a raise for doing something right either

Well, not yet. Imagine if reward functions evolve into being paid with real money.

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Whether in military or business, responsibility should lie with whomever deploys it. If they’re willing to pass the buck up to the implementor or designer, then they shouldn’t be convinced enough to use it.

Because, like all tech, it is a tool.

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You can’t punish AI for doing something wrong.

Maybe I’m being pedantic, but technically, you do punish AIs when they do something “wrong”, during training. Just like you reward it for doing something right.

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But that is during training. I insinuated that you can’t punish AI for making a mistake, when used in combat situations, which is very convenient for the ones intentionally wanting that mistake to happen

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That is like saying you cant punish gun for killing people

edit: meaning that its redundant to talk about not being able to punish ai since it cant feel or care anyway. No matter how long pole you use to hit people with, responsibility of your actions will still reach you.

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Sorry, but this is not a valid comparison. What we’re talking about here, is having a gun with AI built in, that decides if it should pull the trigger or not. With a regular gun you always have a human press the trigger. Now imagine an AI gun, that you point at someone and the AI decides if it should fire or not. Who do you account the death to at this case?

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The one who deployed the ai to be there to decide whether to kill or not

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The person holding the gun, just like always.

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