Link: Bombenomics: Biden admin circulates map showing states that benefit from Ukraine aid

Bombenomics.

They’re admitting in this article that this just to get rid of old inventory to— you guessed it, go to war with China!

Something something highest stage

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I’m not sure if your unaware but Russia has annexed almost 5 Ukrainian States and is still advancing at all parts of the line, had the Minsk II ACCORDS been followed hundreds of thousands of people would still be alive and Ukraine would likely be better off.

If you are happy Russians are dying, you should understand that the continuation of this war is killing Ukrainians at about 2 times the rate.

The only thing you are actually rooting for is the increased wealth of the Military Industrial Complex within the Western imperial core, or Russia for the increased likelihood of gaining Odessa by wars end. Your bloodlust does nothing for anyone.

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I’m not happy that anyone is dying. In fact, I’ve got quite a large problem with that.

That’s why I’m all for Russia getting out of Ukraine and ending this war. If Russians are on Ukrainian land with weapons trying to kill Ukrainians… Well, there’s no other option.

I find it funny how you’re talking about “Western imperialism” while regurgitating the lies of a country that’s literally invading another. I find the brain gymnastics of the people here morbidly fascinating.

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A brave point for you to make. Now do US in Syria, France in West Africa, Saudi and UAE in Yemen, Israel in Gaza. 4 conflicts where western led wars could actually be minimized by western civilians pushing for ceasefires or pullouts of foreign troops. People like you don’t care about these conflicts that America or its allies are continuing, you only care about conflicts where the “answer” to solving it is killing more people. It’s not about peace for you, it’s about defeating Putin or whatever good vs evil narrative you have.

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If you actually cared about stopping violence you would be protesting the wars your own government does, as you have some amount of influence over that. You shouldn’t be regurgitating propaganda about the “enemy” nations. That is warmongering. That only leads to war, even if you think you’re doing it for peace, all you are effectively doing is boosting your own nations war. Nothing you can do about Russia or China’s decisions as a citizen of the west, so remove the beam from thine own eye.

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If you think this war has anything to do with protecting gay people you are an unbelievably dense fucking moron

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Imagine thinking Ukrainr, the country that banned opposition parties and Russian-language media of all kinds (not just from Russia itself) while having never stood for queer rights nor the rights of ethnic minorities is less dictatorial.

I hope you grow out of using minorities as a prop, running dog

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So dishonest to what the options are and what the laws in Ukraine have been before the war. At wars end, the far right elements of the Ukrainian rump state will be fully armed to do as they please to LGBTQ community you now claim this war is protecting.

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Slippery Slope and a strawman! What do you call that, a greased scarecrow? Skiing bird-scarer?

First of all, it’s not a guarantee that an independent post-war Ukraine would swing authoritarian (it’s also not unlikely given the global trend towards authoritarianism, however Ukraine has built strong relations with the West which would strongly encourage they continue westernizing to continue reaping the economic and social benefits of good relations with the West)

Secondly, I just gave members of the LGBTQ community as an example of a people for whom annexation is not an option. No need to get so triggered over it

LGBTQ community you now claim this war is protecting.

I “now claim?” What do you even mean? One country is making progress on LGBTQ rights and doesn’t legally persecute members of the community, the other just labeled the entire LGBTQ rights movement as an extremist organization!

In a war spawned by an attempted annexation, this is a war of continued countryhood or not. This isn’t some petty land dispute over some shitty little island or some acres of farmland, this isn’t a grinding war of people in power who can’t talk to eachother like grownups where the folks on the ground ultimately have little dog in the fight other than surviving, it’s literally a war of “do I continue living in a growing, modernizing democracy with western ties or a backsliding authoritarian dictatorship that’s constantly trying to relive the Soviet glory days”

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far more human rights abusing nation

Open Nazi worship, the massacre of labor union organizers, elections cancelled, all opposition parties banned, Russian language banned, conscription squads snatching men and women off the streets, ten years of fascist slaughter along ethnic lines in the Donbas…yeah you libs really picked the right horse to back on this one. Don’t you have another SS veteran to go praise?

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For some Ukrainians, such as those in the LGBTQ community it’s literally a choice of risk dying as your country defends it’s existence, or risk dying in a Russian prison

Fuck off you pinkwashing asshole.

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