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Do you have the same opinion for someone with a level 3 on the ASD? They will require constant care just to function, and will decrease the material conditions of anyone who takes care of them.

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The idea of classifications of autism into high-functioning and low-functioning groups like that was invented by famed Nazi Hans Asperger because he was enthusiastic about eugenics and wanted a method for determining which autistic people should stay and which should go.

Someone who would get classified as “level 3” will 100% have issues that would be classified as diseases, and it makes more sense to treat those diseases first. But for someone with autism and nothing else? Yes I hold the same opinion that they should not have their autism eradicated.

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I get your point. Trying to categorize people does create more division.

But we’re not talking about eugenics. We’re talking about treatment. I think the option should be available to autistic people, and it should be their choice to take it.

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I get your point. Trying to categorize people does create more division.

But we’re not talking about eugenics. We’re talking about treatment.

I wasn’t bringing up the eugenics roots of “high function/low functioning” to call gene therapy eugenics, I did it to reject the idea that these people in your hypothetical are of less value if they don’t take the gene therapy. When we say that autism is not a disease, we mean that it is that autistic people have material needs to be met, just like anyone else, and the autism itself is not a problem.

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Do you have the same opinion for someone with a level 3 on the ASD? They will require constant care just to function, and will decrease the material conditions of anyone who takes care of them.

From each according to their ability, to each according to their need, unless we’re talking about autism, in which it’s better to purge their genes of neurodivergence than ask anyone to help them out, apparently

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I think the option should be available to autistic people, and it should be their choice to take it.

Bad analogy, but a similar thought process could be applied to being gay. The reality is that the majority of people researching, allocating funds for or marketing these “solutions” are usually neurotypical themselves. I really don’t want to see how tenuous the definition of “volunteer” is going to be if this ever gets to human trials.

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I think the option should be available to autistic people, and it should be their choice to take it.

To reference capeshit, this was basically the plot of X-Men: The Last Stand, and it was never so simple. People around mutants pressured them and in some cases tried to force them to do it

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