According to the article it’s the same AWB from the Clinton years.
They can fuck right off. It’s not what we need. We need to ban external magazines. This cosmetic shit is bullshit and just posturing to make gun owners suffer.
We need to withhold all federal funding from states that do not send information to the NICS system and we need universal background checks.
Banning external magazines works because every rifle can be retrofitted by welding a magazine in place and loading with stripper clips.
Edit - ITT people who think they have a right to carry guns everywhere but are too afraid to write a reply.
Edit 2 - And apparently most of the ones willing to reply fall into the camp of pretending to care as they’ve laser focused on one word. No I’m not going to change it. Being a nuisance is not the objective. Cathartic release is not the objective. Cutting gun violence is the fucking objective.
external magazines - you have no clue what you’re talking about.
universal background checks.
Again you have no idea what you’re talking about. My heart aches for people like you full of opinions on a topic, yet completely lacking in basics of said topic.
No expertise at all. Just a decade in the military doing grunt jobs. Nothing happens until we materially affect the speed with which semi auto weapons can fire, and their spread in the country. Revolvers and bolt action weapons are perfectly fine, even as militia weapons.
“here durr, I served my opinion matters more” you supported the corporate machine while likely pushing 3 MOA chump.
Lol “suffer.” Man, take your head out of your ass and go fuck yourself. People, CHILDREN, are fucking dying.
And it would be nice to do something about that instead of making laws that do nothing but piss off a demographic. I gave you three great alternatives and you still tried to pretend like I said let’s kill those kids.
Nah dude. Other nations have long “done sometime” (or if they hadn’t, they did immediately after experiencing one shooting) about this problem. I guess those Aussies just don’t have the stomach for dead kindergartners… Pussies.
You could not care less about those dead kids, unless you’re directly affected. If you did, you’d recognize that their lives are far more valuable than your ability to play dress up and go pew pew. You would actually be interested in a solution rather than keeping things the way they are. Where the number one cause of death among young people is firearms.
No. America will never do anything about it because people like you.
This cosmetic shit is bullshit and just posturing to make gun owners suffer.
“Suffer” in what way? Having to find a new hobby? Having to use a different boom toy instead of the cool boom toy they want to use? Those poor, poor gun owners!
Compared to the actual suffering of the dying kids and their parents, who do you think has it worse?
The old AWB literally bans certain guns by name and certain cosmetic parts. That’s it. They can rename the childkiller 2000 into childkiller 3000 while reworking the buttstock to fit around the thumb hole clause. It literally drives more gun sales, not less.
And it grandfathers in all the guns already out there. It’s a fucking nuisance law, not a solution. It’s not even a step in the right direction because I can buy an AWB legal hunting rifle and run it with old 30 round magazines for the same effect as the scary black gun with a fore grip and flash hider.
How do you read shit like “make external magazines illegal and weld all the guns so they can’t take them” and think this guy likes the gun lobby?
Think for half a second. Read beyond the fucking title.
It sounds like you possibly didn’t read my question. “Suffer” in what way, exactly? How do you read "‘Suffer’ in what way?’ and go on a tangent about renaming guns? Did you not say “This cosmetic shit is bullshit and just posturing to make gun owners suffer.”? Did I misinterpret what you said?
No one- and I mean no one- has it harder than someone who has 12 rifles that look like they were designed for military use but can’t buy a 13th because of some stupid law that is designed to cause them literal physical pain.
Those dead kids wish they had it so bad.
Oh my God dude, you too? You usually actually read posts. How about instead of concentrating on being a nuisance to gun owners and the industry we pass some laws that work. Like maybe these things from that comment you responded to-
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Stop sending any federal funds to states that don’t give prohibited possesor information to the National Instant Background Check System
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Ban and make illegal all external magazines. Existing weapons to be retrofitted by welding a block and installing an internal magazine.
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Institute Universal Background Checks.
No, instead we’re over here discussing if the Remington 21a hunting rifle can be sold with thumb hole, fore grip, and pistol grip. Or if Remington has to design weird shapes and bumps to provide the same functionality without actually being those things. Meanwhile, the kids you care so much about and the gun suicides that make up more than half of gun deaths are still happening.
This is what pisses me off about the 2A debate. One side wants to sacrifice people for their ego and the other side wants to do no more than pretend they’re doing something about it.
We could just ban all guns, unless you’re part of a well organized militia. No need to worry about cosmetics or any real particulars that way.
No, you couldn’t. Familiarize yourself with 10 U.S. Code § 246 which actually defines exactly what the militia (both organized militia and unorganized militia) are:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246
I don’t have demographic data to reference, but I imagine the United States has a LOT of male citizens between the ages of 17 and 45.
Fun fact, that’s because of a SCOTUS ruling in the 1940’s. They just arbitrarily decided that the militia was everyone.
If we want to get originalist about this the well regulated militias refers to men of a town who were in good standing and drilled regularly under official supervision. They were also subject to call up by the town, county, state, and federal governments.
The only things we have with that structure are the Reserves and National Guard.
Well perfect. Looks like we’ve got a definition for “organized militia” (literally another word for “well-regulated militia”. Don’t waste your time I’m not going to get into a semantics argument about this). “Unorganized militia” became obsolete when we created a standing army.
Here is the definition you linked to since it appears as though you stopped reading about 2/3 through:
the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia;
So it looks like we do have a well-regulated militia, and it’s called the National Guard. Thanks for the additional evidence that the Heller decision was bullshit!
