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So your objection is that they call a mass shooting a mass shooting? What magic number would you like them to use?

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No, my objection is they call normal shootings mass shootings with the agenda of making and keeping people scared.

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“Normal shootings”

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You just made me realize how much I’d love to live in a country where there was no such thing as a “normal shooting”.

Gun culture in America is absolutely fucked.

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They’re so goddamn brain rotted that they don’t even realize how completely fucked that is.

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Yes, for example:

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/at-least-3-fatally-shot-in-dallas-home-suspect-wanted/

That’s just “crime”, not a mass shooting, unless you talk to the gun violence archive.

They want you to be scared. You need to ask why.

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So you’ll only care about children dying in school when the numbers go up even higher than they already are?

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No, a shooting at a school would most likely be a mass shooting, unless it were something like a gang shooting, or a robbery, or some fight that got out of control.

I’m talking about the Gun Violence Archive posting up stories like this:

https://www.koin.com/local/clark-county/vancouver-murder-suicide-suspect-victims-identified-by-clark-county-authorities/

Which, regardless of how many people died, is a murder/suicide, not a mass shooting. The general public was not at risk, the killings weren’t random, and did not happen in a public space. In fact, based on the early reporting, may not have even been a shooting.

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You don’t think the nra telling people to be scared and that they need a gun to feel safe is more of the issue?

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Not really, because the vast, vast, number of gun owners don’t use them.

Let me give you some perspective…

We don’t REALLY know, but the best estimate is there are around 474 MILLION guns in the United States.

https://www.thetrace.org/2023/03/guns-america-data-atf-total/

In 2021, 48,830 people died from gun injuries.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

54% of those were suicides. So 22,462 murders or accidents.

Gun laws are never going to prevent suicides, only national mental health care can do that. So looking at the murders and accidents:

22,462 / 474,000,000? 0.0000473878

That’s not a crisis, it’s a rounding error. And, yes, each one of those 22,000 deaths individually is a tragedy, but that also means 473,978,000 guns sat around collecting dust.

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