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Any capturing strategy is useless at scale. We need strategies to transform co2. Trees are more effective and scalable long term solutions than any carbon capture. And much cheaper

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The problem is stuff like concrete… the way to make new concrete emits a shitload of CO2, whether or not you use electricity or fossil fuels. So we either need to find an alternative to cement or we need to capture all that CO2.

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Plus, it’s not like carbon capture would be used in a vaccuum. It would be to supplement all other strategies

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It is useless to capture it. It will diffuse back to the atmosphere at some point in the future. It must be transformed. Or we should stop producing it

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Except we have clear evidence that if it’s stored properly it will stay there for millions of years. The fossil fuels (mostly) did not emit carbon into the atmosphere in the millions of years between dinosaurs / algae and now.

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Cheaper and scalable, yes, but what I’m getting at is the monoculture approach that most proponents take.

Also, it requires quite a bit of land mass to do, whereas with other options, you could potentially get similar benefits on smaller footprints.

I don’t know enough about C offset dynamics to speak intelligently, but these are some of the things we need to consider.

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I know enough of “C offset” to tell you that the problem is not C offset. You cannot and don’t want to “offset” carbon. Carbon is literally the most important element for nature. Carbon is not a problem at all. Excess of CO2 is the problem. By excess I mean all CO2 that the system “earth” cannot transform in biological compounds. Transformation is primary done by plants, algae and bacteria. Unless we find a ecological, economically viable way to perform artificial transformation, the only solution is to increase number of natural “transformers” and decrease excess of CO2. Any other solution is thermodynamically useless, i.e. marketing. Carbon offset as a concept is pure marketing

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Not trying to challenge you in this comment: I legit want to know more.

I’m I’m agreement on the need for transformation of C. I also agree that this is more than likely going to have to come from natural sources.

Why won’t geological sequestration (e.g., chemically bonding it to rock, concrete, or Tailings) work? The thing I like about this method is that its super long term transformation (basically removal) as long as pH is controlled.

What methods look promising? I saw some biocell things that looked cool but way too niche to be practical.

Cutting emissions is definitely a key part of all this, but there’s a lag phase before the warming if the emissions we emit now are realized. On top of this, there is woefully limited regulations around methane and n2o in key sectors.

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