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Spouting Bible verses doesn’t make someone a Christian. They could be Jewish, after all! Believing in Jesus doesn’t make someone a Christian - that would mean that Muslims are Christians since they believe Jesus was simply a human prophet (rather than the son of Allah).

Claiming to be a Christian is a large part of what it takes to be a Christian by common definition. You skipped over that part likely because it’s devastating to your bad argument. 🥱

EDIT: I also think it’s funny that you think “believing in Jesus” would be as simple as believing that there was a guy that walked the Earth named Jesus that said and did some holy stuff. Believing in Jesus for most people would mean believing in his divinity, not just that oh there was this swell guy that walked around at one point.

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Claiming to be a Christian means nothing. I didn’t skip anything. It’s literally the same argument as the “claiming to be a golfer” and “claiming to be a musician” arguments that you can’t wrap your head around.

Claiming to be a Christian is not a part of what it takes to be a Christian anymore than claiming to be Scotsman makes someone not born in Scotland one.

Edit: Your edit is even stupider than the body of your post. Satan is not a Christian yet, by your definition, he would have to believe in Jesus’ divinity and would, therefore, be a Christian. This is how stupid your responses are.

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Satan is not a Christian yet, by your definition, he would have to believe in Jesus’ divinity and would, therefore, be a Christian. This is how stupid your responses are.

I like how you keep telling me how stupid I am, but think the common sense definition for “Christian” wouldn’t include having to be a person. 😎

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I keep telling you how stupid you are because you keep avoiding the actual point and, instead, say stupid things like what you just said as if they’re some sort of gotcha or disprove my point. I literally cannot spell out this argument to you any more simply so, rather than assume you’re intentionally being dishonest or are arguing in bad faith (which I expect is exactly what you’re doing), I have to go with the only logical alternative which is that you are stupid and the point of this is just whizzing above your head while you look at the sky wondering.

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Claiming to be a Christian means nothing.

So words mean nothing again according to you, now only the actions count. Someone’s arguing in circles.

Claiming to be a Christian has a lot to do with whether or not people consider you a Christian by the common understanding of the word.

“We are what we pretend to be, so we must careful what we pretend to be.” - Kurt Vonnegut

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Claiming to be a…

When did I ever claim that words meant anything in terms of whether someone was something?

It does not. We’ve already covered this. Are you mental? A claim to be something doesn’t make someone that thing. Do I need to keep repeating the “golfer” and “musician” examples? I’m not arguing in circles. You seem to be twisting yourself into knots, though.

Tell me you don’t understand the Vonnegut quote without telling me you don’t understand it…

Edit: Just as nonsensical - “Claiming to be a golfer has a lot to do with whether or not people consider you a golfer by the common understanding of the word”. Oh really? I thought it was whether or not you play golf that determined if you were a golfer.

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