Instances are not shadow banning, they all listed in instance list page.
I didn’t get the mod drama thing. I guess this guy mixing instance admins with community mods.
Also, I don’t think there is that much blocking between instances except Beehaw, since they want to create a refined user base.
Edit: what I was telling here is only applies to Lemmy. Looks like things are different for Mastodon side. So this comment may have a realistic view. I just don’t have enough experience on there.
The largest instances all block many other instances and they are all in favor of federating with Meta as well.
To be fair, a lot of the blocking are of instances that are causing lots of moderation problems, since they post things that upset many users.
Most users actually prefer a walled garden experience so they don’t have to see things that upsets them. As long as they feel the walled garden has sensible rules.
Ya hopefully that was an insanely swreping bit just now. I want NOTHING to do with fucking Meta
I don’t really expect 4channers to have reasonable opinions on moderation, the whole reason it’s the way it is is because of lax moderation
I’ve gotten used to just accessing Lemmy through the Eternity app.
How would I look at the graph showing instances and which ones are connected to each other?
On Lemmy, it’s shown. On Mastodon, instances are given the ability to hide their blocked instances which IMO hinders people’s ability to join. A lot of the drama on the fediverse with regards to blocking is from Mastodon and similar instances.
People claim the instance you join doesn’t matter because “everything is federated!” but it kind of does. It strongly affects the people who will see your posts and even who you can follow, and if you don’t know what an instance is blocking it creates an air of uncertainty. I’ve seen instances get blocked for stupid at best and downright malicious at worst reasons, so the 4chan post isn’t inherently wrong.
It kinds of works like shadow banning because defederation means one instance doesn’t get updates from the defeded one… but the defeded one can still be federated with the one that defeded them, so users on that can still see and comment on posts, but they aren’t displayed to people using the defeded instance. So they’re just posting into the void. But people on their instance and I guess other instances can still see them of course.
