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36 points

Can someone please tell me exactly what I’m supposed to be wearing?

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As little as possible.

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There are mulesing free certificates, and some companies go the extra mile.

Varusteleka is pretty open about their wool, but they don’t have the biggest selection.

(varusteleka, I’ve called you out twice on this account, sponsor me lmao)

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7 points

Are you fucking kidding me?

Do you think most people can buy clothes for that kind of money? I sure as fuck can’t afford a shirt that costs $64 or pants that cost $160.

You’re basically telling me that in order to have cruelty-free wool, I have to be wealthy.

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You’re basically telling me that in order to have cruelty-free wool, I have to be wealthy.

Congrats. You found out why there’s animal cruelty in the first place. People need cheaper things -> other things need to be sacrificed to make that happen.

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7 points

That is correct.

Ethics come at a premium. Ethics are a luxury good.

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Yes, pretty much. You can’t verify mass produced, fast fashion clothes. If you want something realisticly certifiable you need to look for high quality, low volume products. Or get a personal tailor and shoemaker.

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12 points

Simplest answer: cotton. It’s cheap and good enough for most uses. High-grade cotton like Supima is extra comfortable and not much more expensive.

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It’s not very good for the use of keeping you warm. Unlike wool.

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Unfortunately extremely high water usage to grow cotton, and a lot of it is grown in places that need that water for other things (RIP Aral Sea).

Based on the article we should use flax aka linen, which I suppose makes sense. Linen was once a finery due to the excessive effort needed to produce it, but now we have machinery.

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Linen actually doesn’t take to large scale mechanization very well. It causes the fibers to break into shorter pieces more often, which makes the final fabric rougher and less sturdy. Machine-woven linen also tends to be more loosely woven, which is again less sturdy.

Machines certainly helped some amount, but cotton got a way bigger boost from industrialization. That’s why cotton is so much cheaper than linen today, especially high quality linen.

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Can’t say anything about buying new clothes, but as the budget’s tightened in my household I’ve been leaning how to mend my clothes. The ones I normally would’ve thrown away due to armpit/toe/crotch holes can be fixed somewhat easily.

One catch is that I use a sewing machine my MIL gave me - so there was some cost somewhere. But I see machines on craigslist going for sub 60 fairly often. The second catch is that I was lucky enough to develop an interest (and spend my free time) learning about how to mend clothes. If people lack free time/interest to learn how to do it, then they end up paying the new-clothes tax.

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My wife does the sewing machine work here. I’m inept. But I’m okay with a needle and thread, so I’ve done plenty of my own (ugly) repairs. Some stuff it doesn’t matter on anyway, like fixing the toe in a sock. Easy to do and saves money on socks.

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7 points

I’ve got a hole in my sock! Darn it!

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33 points

Adopt actual sheep, and just strap them to your body for warmth.

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7 points

Based on the news today, human skin™️ apparently

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1 point

If we change the climate enough via global warming we can make it so it’s always hot then we will no longer need clothes!

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10 points

Nothing! Go forth and let it all be free and flap around!

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29 points

So generally the entire clothes industry is slavery ridden and completely fucked. Trying to follow the supply chain is basically impossible.

I would suggest essentially as little as possible for as long as possible, plant fibres probs good. synthetic not really that bad given the whole state of everything it’s small fries in terms of plastic waste.

get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

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get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

Anyone who can afford that is not doing it to be sustainable and humanitarian and I think you know that.

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That really depends. If you buy a tshirt it was probably made paying someone like 5c a day.

If you find someone who makes clothing, just a normal arse person not someone catering to the rich, they can probably make a basic tshirt to your rough size in about 3 hours or so. If they’re paid a reasonable fee that’s going to be in my country for example 200 aud or so factoring in material. A sweat shop T would be 20 to 50, or even 80 in a high end store so it’s really not much more expensive.

Wear it till it has holes in it so say 5 to 10 years and it’s really not that expensive.

More complicated clothing gets more expensive but a basic wardrobe is something like 3 Ts, 3 long sleave tops, 2 heavy pants, 2 light pants/skirts etc. you don’t need to buy it all at once. Sometimes you need more clothes than that, e.g. you’re a woman and you work customer facing but most people have waaaaay more clothes than they need.

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Wtf are you talking about? I’m not super rich, but i get some things done with a local tailor and one of the biggest reasons is to support local business and avoid overseas slave labour

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Depends on where you live. In European cities it will be expensive to get new things tailored, but there will be shops only for changes and repairs, which will be cheaper, for example.

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That really is a ‘where you live’ thing. When I lived in SEA I could buy a button down shirt you could wear to work for about $5, going to a tailor and having one bespoke was $6 in cotton, or $15 in silk. Wool was actually more expensive since there was no domestic production.

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Reduce, reuse, recycle is the best bet. Most people in privileged areas own much more clothing than they need and dispose of it long before it’s worn out. Used clothing, hand me downs. Recycled plastic fibres (wash in one of those bags that filter out micro plastic). Plant fibres. Hemp is a great alternative to wool.

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I’m looking up hemp clothing now. It’s just as expensive as the other option the other person gave me.

Purchasing used clothing, fine, but if your advice is to buy much more expensive clothing than I can afford, I guess I can’t wear the cruelty-free stuff if I need something new. And I’m sure as hell not buying used underwear.

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