A bill that would allow police in France to spy on suspects by remotely activating cameras, microphone including GPS of their phones has been passed.

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Well crap, we’re fucked then?

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We are just as fucked as we’ve always been. Hackers use zero-day vulnerabilities. Can’t do too much about that. Any device is hackable. That became clear after Snowden, and the USA hacking irans centrifuge.

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The US hacking Iran’s centrifuges would have been preventable though with careful device management as far as I understand. The worm they used, Stuxnet, didn’t come from nowhere. It either came from a USB that hadn’t been properly sanitized or their systems were connected to an external, unprotected network when they definitely should have been isolated. That’s a preventable virus and unrelated to conversations about backdoors being built into technology for governments to access.

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Weren’t Iran’s centrifuges only hacked because they used off-the-shelf parts made in the U.S.?

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Goddamn that’s scary

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Can’t we even avoid that by using lineage or graphene? We’re really fucked unless we are like cybersec experts…

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Wonder if Google, Apple, or SoC makera are asked or secretly mandated to leave certain backdoors in. I know mobile providers have quite a bit they can see on their end.

It’s a good thing we’re always presented with two choices for everything, like mobile OS’s, to control our choices like we’re toddlers.

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Mobile operators have baseband which is why we have modem isolation. And some of us can see quite a bit on our end, too.

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How do you get Pegasus onto LineageOS or GrapheneOS? Especially on hardware with modem isolation?

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From the Guardian article somebody else linked:

One of the most significant challenges that Pegasus presents to journalists and human rights defenders is the fact that the software exploits undiscovered vulnerabilities, meaning even the most security-conscious mobile phone user cannot prevent an attack.

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This isn’t even wrong. What is the attack vector? They send a magic message that 0wns Signal, and then cleans up? At scale? With nobody noticing? This doesn’t happen.

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TIme to find out what the vulnerabilieties are and EXPOSE them in a OPEN repository.

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On lineageos also just pegasus. Only thing that makes it better than stock android is that you have more chances for security patches. Dumno about graphene, it has some additional protections, but still susceptible to some vulnerabilities of android.

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Same way you do with everything else: Exploits.

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