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This is reason #856632 that you don’t put vital government services on fucking Twitter.

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Reminds me of Canada’s emergency alert system.

A custody mixup happens a 5 hour drive away with the child last seen an hour ago? Top priority notification to every device capable of receiving SMS. And then a second one in French. And then a third one because they forgot to give any details about who or what to look for. And then a fourth one in French. And then a fifth one because they settled the mix-up. And then a sixth one in French.

Again, they are IMPOSSIBLE to turn off through general device settings because they’re sent at the presidential level (aka. “nuclear launch detected”-level threat).

But an active shooter is going on a killing spree dressed as an officer? Better hope you’ve liked and subscribed to the right police association on Twitter! Because only one of them sent out anything, and nobody sent out an emergency notification at any level.

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The difference being a team of 10 high up administrators took 1 hour to write each of the messages regarding the child.

Active shooter? Good luck getting ANY credible info until after police have killed them. IC, EOC, Unified Command all have to get together and push out the same message.

As others have said, there’s a reason why you wait for verified information through proper channels.

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How about “If you’re around [TownName], get to shelter; people are being shot”?

They don’t need long for an earthquake, then they shouldn’t need long for a situation where people have already started dying.

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Again, they are IMPOSSIBLE to turn off through general device settings

I don’t know about your phone, but at least in mine, they can in fact be turned off in general device settings. There’s a “Wireless emergency alerts” section in the options, under which you can individually toggle Extreme Alerts, Severe Alerts, Amber Alerts, and Tests

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Those toggles don’t work because, in Canada, everything is sent at the Presidential Level, which might be above “Extreme Alerts”.

I had to basically plug my phone into my computer to access adb (a command line tool) to deactivate them.

On my old phone, I was able to make the sound at least respect DND. I don’t know if it’s a Samsung vs. Google thing, or if it’s an Android version thing.

Canada ignores complaints because if people got the alert, it’s working.

Android ignores complaints because it’s Canada’s problem, and why would anyone want to completely deactivate all alerts? (Which I’ve done – I don’t even get texts anymore, which I actually want. But it was all or nothing.)

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Or any other service, that like Twitter, is a closed for profit service of a multinational for profit corporations.

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The universe of stupidity is so endless that I don’t know in which direction to fight really.

On most public\political subjects people I talk to think I’m delusional, they talk how “free markets don’t work”, “regulation prevents murderous chaos”, “regulation prevents monopolies and wild capitalism” and so on.

But when it’s this kind of thing, it suddenly becomes all right for them to offload a public service to a private company. And they suddenly become optimists. Same fscking people. I once had that from a communist.

I think it’s primate psychology. Libertarian ideas are seen as delusional because these people fear chaos and the feeling of letting go. And for the same reason big corporations are seen as all right because they are familiar, there’s the feeling of order and control. Primates flock to strength.

For the same reason some people defend copyright, I think. They want hierarchy, somebody owning every recognizable picture. A master in the house.

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I thin libertarian is just anarchy by another name. Regulated free market is the way to go, if you want democracy, which is the least bad, but those regulations need constant adjustment. The system need constant weeding or corruption grows.

Force platforms like Twitter to support ActivityPub from governments. Then give alerts to citizens that way. Tear down the closed walls at least for government emergency alerts.

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There are government text messages and local websites and all sorts of ways of reaching people. Unfortunately, X probably reaches ten times as many people. I think a diversified approach makes sense.

That being said, us gov has sent the text messages and that seems to be the best way to do it. Everyone has a phone. And if you don’t, then you like to live on the edge.

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All cell phones connected to a Japanese network received a notification regardless of their carrier, brand or what apps they installed.

This is already way better than whatever reach X provides.

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Yeah, and kinda renders this thread and article pointless. X serves a redundant feature. Who cares if they treated a government like any other paying customer (like shit)? Bashing X is trendy and this article is just another one. I say this never having had Twitter, nor X, and I just don’t care. I also don’t own any MuskBrands™ stock or anything.

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NERV is a private service, which rebroadcasts government emergency warnings with better representations.

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It annoys me that pretty much every local government agency is on Twitter and FB and don’t even really update their own websites. It’s a shame nobody uses RSS much these days.

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Not being on Twitter in this case is like shouting “RUN AWAY!” in several empty rooms and not bothering to go into the room full of people.

Emergency broadcasts should be on all platforms. You need to maximize the chance of reaching people.

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Yes, I understand that they’re on Twitter and fb because that’s where their audience is. But I don’t want to be required to use Twitter or fb to read their updates, so it would be nice if they also posted to some sort of neutral platform like idk, their own websites.

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