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I’m not a lemmygrad user. I’m simply stating facts?

There’s literally many recent news articles of Canadians getting in legal trouble from American companies because of the things they posted or things they downloaded.

The Canadian government isn’t handing me over to China or allowing China to come get me.

My comment is not even pro China. I’m just saying that nothing I say or do will allow China to put me in jail. Can’t say the same about America.

You should learn to read. I would prefer no one get my data, but it’s statistically safer for me for China to get it over an American company. However, no one should get it. Fuck shit American companies, fuck shit Chinese companies.

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This is actually what I wanted to say to a lot of people. During peace times, allowing a foreign adversary stealing your data is a lot less damaging to your personal freedoms than your own government stealing your data. We need to be wary every time when our own government tries to tries to introduces surveillance laws under the disguise of “national security”.

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“Peace times” doesn’t mean much when wars are waged through propagandizing a countries population to promote civil unrest. Russia was doing this for years and look how it changed the country completely in 2016. I’m certain china will be doing the same. I think people vastly underestimate the value of this data, and what a foreign power can do with it. They can subtly shape the future of a country to damage it far worse than some proxy war will.

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For me America is the foreign power. One that keeps murdeing people in my corner of the world.

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I’m glad that you brought up the problem of foreign propaganda. I firmly believe the government shouldn’t be there to tell me what kind of views I can and cannot see. Some exceptions already exist such as blatant calls for violence which we already have clear guidelines on. Other than that, government is in no place to regulate speech. What’s the point of beating Russia and China when we become just like them?

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You’re about half right. How about just not giving the foreign adversary your data at all?

You don’t NEED TikTok. Nobody does, it’s fucking garbage artificial ADD fuel. Everyone should get rid of it.

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Well I don’t use TikTok and couldn’t care less if they get banned. If you actually read the bills that’s getting passed like the RESTRICT act in the US you’d realize it’s not about banning TikTok and it has numerous vague and concerning clauses that infringes on your privacy. My opinion is always have better privacy laws and enforce it equally on all companies. When my government blatantly tries to steal more of my data and pretend they’re actually doing me a favor I’d rather the foreign adversary have it for free.

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Peace time?! China is waging a cold war against Western democracies!

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so war hasn’t broken out, what’s your point? Last time I checked China still isn’t able to send agents to my house to arrest me, but folks here are getting misreported for CSAM to the feds by google scanning their pictures without consent.

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So are the same Western democracies… nearly half of the US is too stupid to understand how voting for an orange Mussolini wannabe was a horrible idea. There’s undeniable proof that the CIA interfered with the Brazilian government between 2016 and 2020. Italy is once again on the brink of Fascism.

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How is “getting in trouble with American companies” (i.e. getting banned from a platform for breaking their rules) worse than a foreign power trying to influence a countries people? You’re not going to jail for posting dumb bullshit lol

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US is the foreign power that has the most influence on people in Canada dummy.

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No, the US is the foreign power who’s culture has the biggest influence on people in Canada, there’s no tangible reason to believe that big US tech companies are feeding your data to the US government and taking orders on how to influence it’s people. Tech companies in the US have shown time and time again that they have no interest in working with the US government (a problem of itself) and every piece of user data handed over has been through a court order.

TikTok has failed numerous global security audits and there’s reason to believe that they’re tied directly to the Chinese government and being used by the Chinese government to influence foreign citizens via misinformation and the removal of “anti-Chinese” material.

Yeah yeah, both are bad, sure, but one is worse and it’s direct Chinese government influence. Anyone that says otherwise is a troll or needs to seriously practice some basic critical thinking skills.

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Who said about getting banned?

If I pirate Photoshop, Adobe could come for me if they really wanted to. Canada doesn’t care about piracy, you don’t need to use a VPN here, but if the American company Adobe really wanted at me, Canada would not stop them.

If I pirated some Chinese software there their government couldn’t do shit to me.

You know geohot, the guy sued by Sony for hacking the ps3? He was American, but that doesn’t change much. If he was Canadian, he would’ve been fucked just the same. Now if I hacked a Chinese console to enable piracy, literally nothing would happen to me.

If I made a threat on the Presidents life, I would be watched and potentially have American feds knocking on my door. If I threatened China, I would get upvotes and people would laugh.

You’re not really understanding what I’m saying. I’m assuming you’re American? The country where pretty much every massive company operates from? Well, the rest of the world hates that nearly everything we do is funneled back into the US.

Use Windows? MacOS? Android? iOS? Gmail? Outlook? Yahoo? Microsoft Office? Facebook? Instagram? Reddit?.. the list goes on.

Now imagine if 95% of your data was funneled into a different country. I’m sure you’d hate it. Especially with the state of American politics right now. Your country is dangerous.

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I’m not American, I’m Canadian, and I never said that I’m cool with their government’s recent developments, but that doesn’t mean the Chinese government collecting and using your data to push it’s agenda on foreign citizens is better, that’s absolutely insane.

And your argument is that you want to freely and openly hack proprietary software and make threats on the US president’s life? Lol what the fuck.

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