You are viewing a single thread.
View all comments
-14 points

There’s got to be another way to describe this than as a “recall”. New buyers seeing the term “recall” could shake their confidence in the EV industry as a whole and needlessly perpetuate the sale of ICE vehicles.

permalink
report
reply
26 points

Nah, recalls happen all the time to ICE vehicles and no one eschews them for the train or metro. Integrity begins with what is said and how. It is important to be direct, even if our own personal biased want to show.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

The issue comes in that, historically, recalls require you to take your car in for service… hence the name. With OTA updates, the issues are often fixed before the consumer even knows there is an issue and the “recall” effectively just becomes communication that there was a problem.

These communications definitely need to continue happening and should remain mandatory by law, but calling them the same thing that requires a trip to the mechanic or dealership, to replace parts, is specifically being broadcast as a means to discredit the technology.

People that aren’t informaed about the difference end up believing these issues will prevent their car from working or reduce reliability when they are simple software patches that happen without the need for additional resources.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

The vehicle is unsafe to drive until the update happens

Whether it’s easier for the user to verify themselves, or it’s easier to take it to the dealer isn’t really relevant

It’s not being used to discredit the technology - it’s how you tell consumers that the product is not safe without a modification

permalink
report
parent
reply
16 points
*

People said the same thing recently when Tesla was required to do an OTA update in the US. The thing is that while they don’t have to physically work on each vehicle, it’s labeled a recall because it’s a regulatory action that compelled them to do it. Tesla didn’t decide to do these updates on their own - they were directed to do so by the government, first in the US and now in China.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Aha! This makes a lot of sense and is the type of answer i was looking for.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points
*

Voluntary recalls are actually more common than ordered recalls. Manufacturers usually don’t wait for the NHTSA to get involved.

What makes it a recall is that either the manufacturer or the NHTSA determine that there’s a safety defect or that the vehicle doesn’t confirm to the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard.

So I believe the terminology is required by the NHTSA if it fits the above definition regardless of how the issue is addressed.

Of course this is for the US and this is a recall in China but I’m assuming similar legal requirements are involved.

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

I mean, it should absolutely shake peoples’ faith in Tesla. They are unreliable vehicles made by a shady af company.

permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

With a man-child as the CEO who removed Disney+ cause he got his feelers hurt.

Imagine what else Apartheid Karen would do given the chance?

permalink
report
parent
reply
9 points
*
Deleted by creator
permalink
report
parent
reply
4 points

I would hope people could at least read the full headline of “over autopilot safety controls” and realize that has nothing to do with how the vehicle is powered.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

Alternatively they could stop making shit cars and putting people’s lives in danger

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points

Agreed. This is why most Tesla recall headlines are clickbait. It’s the first thing I check when I see one.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-4 points

Oof you can’t say anything on Lemmy that defies the “we hate tesla because Elon” culture - even slightly.

Enjoy the -30 downvotes lol, I’m sure I’ll join you shortly.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-2 points

Also agreed! It’s like Elon and the thousands of people who work at Tesla are basically the same thing /s

permalink
report
parent
reply

Technology

!technology@lemmy.world

Create post

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


Community stats

  • 18K

    Monthly active users

  • 12K

    Posts

  • 553K

    Comments