Mr Biden’s speech is his first major campaign event of the 2024 election season

President Joe Biden marked the third anniversary of the January 6 attack on the Capitol by warning that the issue of American democracy will be “what the 2024 election is all about,” as he runs against former president Donald Trump once more.

Mr Biden, who spoke near the Valley Forge historical site where George Washington and the Continental Army were encamped during the winter of 1777 and 1778, told attendees that they were there “to answer the most important of questions: Is democracy still America’s sacred cause?”

“This isn’t rhetorical, academic, or hypothetical. Whether democracy is still America’s sacred cause is the most urgent question of our time,” he said.

Mr Biden said his speech, his first major event of the 2024 election season, was “deadly serious,” and about a topic that needed to be raised at the outset of his campaign.

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Is democracy still America’s sacred cause?

With one of the shittier implementations of it in the world, I think it’s not. Capitalism seems more sacred to the US, anyway. In a truly democratic system, the US would have a decent and cheaper healthcare system, a sensible way to report taxes, a political class actually responsible to the people, no “political dynasties” etc.

Also, Biden wouldn’t be president, or at least he couldn’t campaign as a protest candidate against Trump.

Trump is not “willing to sacrifice democracy”. He’s actively fighting against it. The guy is not behaving like “democracy is important, but me being president is importanter”, he’s going “I lost because of democracy, so let’s get rid of it”.

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American healthcare system is very good and affordable for a large majority of Americans. Sure it sucks if you’re poor, but most Americans are not poor.

Taxes are not that hard to do. The vast majority of people get a single income statement from an employer and use the standard deduction. Could it be better? Sure but it’s not bad for most people.

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You can always say, “it’s not that bad” but what I’m saying is that it’s worse than in much of the world.

In the places I’ve lived, if I got sick, especially if I got a long-term sickness, I am not just not paying for it, I get money from my insurance, so my life doesn’t go to shit because I can’t work. And the healthcare systems here are cheaper. My insurance costs around a grand a month, and there are no copays, maximums, deductibles or other bullshit. I am not bearing the risk of me falling ill. And it costs the state less than the US is paying for what they have, both per capita and in total.

And with taxes. I haven’t done my taxes ever. I get a mail saying that my taxes have been done for the year, and I should check it out, I usually have a look if I don’t forget. It is also a cheaper system on both my side and the state’s.

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Do you think that means we are not in a democracy?

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We’re not poor. We’re also over $10,000 in medical debt. Anyone can get sick. Sometimes very sick. Even if you say you have a good immune system because you exercise and take care of yourself.

And before you say it, we have good insurance.

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I didn’t say people don’t get sick or don’t have medical debt

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American healthcare system is very good and affordable for the vast majority of Americans. Sure it sucks if you’re poor, but most Americans are not poor.

Taxes are not that hard to do. The vast majority of people get a single income statement from an employer and use the standard deduction. Could it be better? Sure but it’s not bad for most people.

This is just…

My god dude. Try living in another country for a while. You’re speaking like an abuse victim who keeps defending their abuser. The US’s societal infrastructure, including health care and taxation, are 50 years behind the rest of the developed world. Americans pay top-tier costs for bottom-tier society.

“Sure it sucks if you’re poor” is the kinder sibling of saying “Got mine, fuck you!” Being poor sucks everywhere, just by nature, but the entire point of societal programs is to uplift the poorest and make it suck less, not to give handouts to the rich so they can say “Well geez, at least I’m not poor!”

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“Sure it sucks if you’re poor” is the kinder sibling of saying “Got mine, fuck you!”

Yes it does suck. I didn’t say it was perfect, or that I was a fan.

But our healthcare system works very well for most people. Acting like it doesn’t work for some people is just ridiculous.

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