Mr Biden’s speech is his first major campaign event of the 2024 election season
President Joe Biden marked the third anniversary of the January 6 attack on the Capitol by warning that the issue of American democracy will be “what the 2024 election is all about,” as he runs against former president Donald Trump once more.
Mr Biden, who spoke near the Valley Forge historical site where George Washington and the Continental Army were encamped during the winter of 1777 and 1778, told attendees that they were there “to answer the most important of questions: Is democracy still America’s sacred cause?”
“This isn’t rhetorical, academic, or hypothetical. Whether democracy is still America’s sacred cause is the most urgent question of our time,” he said.
Mr Biden said his speech, his first major event of the 2024 election season, was “deadly serious,” and about a topic that needed to be raised at the outset of his campaign.
1/6 - Never Forget.
This is the consequence of putting conservatives in power.
Not only that, but if they get in power again, there won’t be a “next time.”
Project 2025 - Never Forget.
Indeed, Hitler’s first coup failed as well.
Massive efforts deprogramming cultist behavior needs to be priority. How does one get through to these people, or do you just write them off as broken and focus on those you can save or still on the fence? (we know this is the strategy of the Right, after all).
How does one get through to these people, or do you just write them off as broken and focus on those you can save or still on the fence?
The only tactic I’m familiar with that can actually get through to the self-centered conservatives is called Deep Canvasing, and it’s quite effective.
When Biden wins, who’s betting we’ll see Trump on the ballot again in 2028? And if not, in 2032? And so on, and so on…and if not him one of his kids…and if not them someone far more insidious and intelligent than them all…this is only the beginning. Trump is just the tip of evil rearing its horrific head.
What frightens me: who is going to be the next Trump? Let’s face it, there will likely be another Republican president at some point. Our election system almost guarantees it. Will they do the decent thing and try to work towards the betterment of the country, or will they continue their predecessors’ path towards dictatorship? The other front-runners don’t inspire much confidence in the former (exception: maybe Christie, but there’s virtually no way he’ll win).
Nearly every Republican that voted to impeach Trump lost their primary vote, so I only see them going further right, and a lot of people seem to be okay with this.
There are no other front runners. They are all polling double digits behind Trump.
True. He will win the primary. I’m saying that everyone, but Steve Christie, is more than happy to continue down the path Trump started. This is a trend I doubt will change after Trump is gone.
We’re living in a time when creating extremists is too easy. People used to have to stand in little rooms full of disgruntled people and yell into a microphone. They had to organize and create newspapers and pamphlets. They had to have money to spread their message. They had to lose money to spread their message in hopes of taking power. It took years to rile up enough people to create problems.
Now, any dangerous person has the ability to reach an audience with ease.
It has gotten so bad that even people who aren’t even remotely connected to the internet are extremists. Pawpaw with his flip phone stands at the gas station being radicalized by his old work buddy.
I actually feel like I have to just have faith that everything will work out and our system can save itself.
I hope we don’t end up having to rebuild it all one day with some big nasty lesson we learn and then forget again.
Republican politicians only care about winning. If Trump fails yet again, they will change their strategy. The right wing base are mostly subservient people so they’ll fall in line.
Fascist movements oftentimes fizzle out. There’s generally a cult of personality involved with these movements, and when the leader dies it tends to fade away. Trump isn’t young nor is he healthy, it’s very unlikely he’ll live to 2028. Same goes for a lot of his supporters in the boomer generation.
Sure there is a good number of fashy types in the younger generations but not enough to win an election.
Most important thing is that young people go out and vote in this election.
Please stop conflating Boomers with Trump. I’m def a Boomer and I hate the guy. Also check out the faces in the 1/6 crowd; plenty of younger types there…
I wouldn’t be too sure Biden will win. Trump appears to be beating Biden in the polls at the moment.
Hmm, I don’t understand why my upvote/downivote ratio was so low on this comment: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/
Is democracy still America’s sacred cause?
With one of the shittier implementations of it in the world, I think it’s not. Capitalism seems more sacred to the US, anyway. In a truly democratic system, the US would have a decent and cheaper healthcare system, a sensible way to report taxes, a political class actually responsible to the people, no “political dynasties” etc.
Also, Biden wouldn’t be president, or at least he couldn’t campaign as a protest candidate against Trump.
Trump is not “willing to sacrifice democracy”. He’s actively fighting against it. The guy is not behaving like “democracy is important, but me being president is importanter”, he’s going “I lost because of democracy, so let’s get rid of it”.
American healthcare system is very good and affordable for a large majority of Americans. Sure it sucks if you’re poor, but most Americans are not poor.
Taxes are not that hard to do. The vast majority of people get a single income statement from an employer and use the standard deduction. Could it be better? Sure but it’s not bad for most people.
American healthcare system is very good and affordable for the vast majority of Americans. Sure it sucks if you’re poor, but most Americans are not poor.
Taxes are not that hard to do. The vast majority of people get a single income statement from an employer and use the standard deduction. Could it be better? Sure but it’s not bad for most people.
This is just…
My god dude. Try living in another country for a while. You’re speaking like an abuse victim who keeps defending their abuser. The US’s societal infrastructure, including health care and taxation, are 50 years behind the rest of the developed world. Americans pay top-tier costs for bottom-tier society.
“Sure it sucks if you’re poor” is the kinder sibling of saying “Got mine, fuck you!” Being poor sucks everywhere, just by nature, but the entire point of societal programs is to uplift the poorest and make it suck less, not to give handouts to the rich so they can say “Well geez, at least I’m not poor!”
“Sure it sucks if you’re poor” is the kinder sibling of saying “Got mine, fuck you!”
Yes it does suck. I didn’t say it was perfect, or that I was a fan.
But our healthcare system works very well for most people. Acting like it doesn’t work for some people is just ridiculous.
We’re not poor. We’re also over $10,000 in medical debt. Anyone can get sick. Sometimes very sick. Even if you say you have a good immune system because you exercise and take care of yourself.
And before you say it, we have good insurance.
You can always say, “it’s not that bad” but what I’m saying is that it’s worse than in much of the world.
In the places I’ve lived, if I got sick, especially if I got a long-term sickness, I am not just not paying for it, I get money from my insurance, so my life doesn’t go to shit because I can’t work. And the healthcare systems here are cheaper. My insurance costs around a grand a month, and there are no copays, maximums, deductibles or other bullshit. I am not bearing the risk of me falling ill. And it costs the state less than the US is paying for what they have, both per capita and in total.
And with taxes. I haven’t done my taxes ever. I get a mail saying that my taxes have been done for the year, and I should check it out, I usually have a look if I don’t forget. It is also a cheaper system on both my side and the state’s.
Never before has a president been more right.
No, he’s actually off base and being a complete dumbass. Trump IS NOT “willing to sacrifice” democracy. He’s actively fighting against it. He actively wants to tear up the constitution. He is an active enemy of the country.
Biden still does not realize the threat he is ignoring. He still has no idea HE is supposed to DEFEND democracy, not just talk about it like a proud father. Democrats are truly pathetic and incapable of standing up to fascists. His tepid words reinforce that point.
I think Biden understands the threat of Trump, but he also understands that screaming at people isn’t going to be effective at convincing them.
There’s probably a lot of people that would reject the statement of “TRUMP IS TRYING TO DESTROY DEMOCRACY!” but may be receptive to the message that Trump is “willing to sacrifice democracy.” And yeah, anyone that doesn’t already understand what Trump is trying to is an idiot, but Biden needs idiots to vote for him just as much as the people that understand the consequences of another Trump Presidency. But Biden already has the votes from the people that understand the threat Trump poses.
He shouldn’t be yelling at anyone. He should’ve been quietly working behind the scenes to get the FBI rolling on all investigations and gotten his piece of shit AG to get the ball rolling, too. Instead, the FBI sat on its ass allowing investigations to sit undone and Trump kept merrily showing off top secret docs…
Trump IS an exception. There IS NO PRECIDENT TO SET by prosecuting him properly. Criminals should not be treated special just because they were a politician. That is beyond pathetic of any country.
We literally mock other countries that do this kind of pussyfooting double standard shit.
Does he think Trump’s followers don’t know that?
They want that.
