Don’t dismiss the PUA too quickly. There is a lot of BS in the PUA scene, but also some basic considerations that men don’t get taught in any other way.

The traditional view used to be: men watch porn, women read romance.

That’s not a constructive way to get anywhere, and arguably has been making things worse with the wider availability of more violent and objectifying porn.

Under a general veneer of “getting laid”, the PUA also teach stuff like:

• Don’t be the creepy stalker
• Have some empathy
• Treat your partner like a human being, not just a sex object
• …ok, so maybe that’s it.

May not sound like much, but it’s still a step above the “take, use, leave” that gets taught otherwise.