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37 points

It doesn’t have the connotation of a slur, but it’s undeniably “a derogatory race-based term.” I don’t see how an in-person organization in the U.S. could be successful while allowing that, so it’s always struck me as extremely online that we do.

This is a case of “page of reactionary screed that includes one decent point made poorly,” and us being reflexively contrarian, which is 90% right when dealing with reactionaries but still leaves some considerable blind spots.

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7 points

Kwame Ture was calling crackers for what they are every other day.

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Nah. This guy already knows the counter argument and is itching to debatebro. Calling him a cracker and banning him is objectively correct

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27 points

we should ban all crackers

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20 points

So much for the tolerant left

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20 points

I’m all for unceremoniously banning obvious reactionaries who are here in bad faith, but that’s not what I’m getting at.

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39 points

Anyone who is not joining because of the word Cracker was never gonna join

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That’s too much of a determined take. Why not make a more appropriate (i.e. seems more likely) kinda claim:

Anyone who appears to be not joining because of the word Cr*cker was likely not going to join*

* without an amount of effort which could likely be better used elsewhere, towards materially marginalized groups, fomenting solidarity, organizing, etc.

NOTE: I try to give others a chance at least. Thankfully comrades such as yourself and others can operate more pragmatically rather than with naïvety and so can cover my blind spots

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I dont think i got your last paragraph

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21 points

There are plenty of people who are interested in socialism, but if they show up to a socialist org and get called a cracker they’ll leave. It’s an insult.

We’re talking about politics and organizing people, right? To succeed at those you have to get people to like you, or at least not insult them, no matter how right you are. “Anyone who takes issue when I insult them is unreachable” is extremely online.

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23 points

There are plenty of people who are interested in socialism, but if they show up to a socialist org and get called a cracker they’ll leave. It’s an insult.

This also applies to pigpoopballs and you can pry my ppb from my cold dead hands.

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There are plenty of people who are interested in socialism, but if they show up to a socialist org and get called a cracker they’ll leave. It’s an insult.

We aren’t a fucking org. No one is joining an org to come in and start swinging minute 1 about how akshually Stalin was Hitler unless they are joining an org that holds that stance to begin with. If someone does join an ML org and do that, they get what they fucking deserve.

But we are not an org, and them coming into some thread to take shots does not represent remotely the same opportunity to us that a new member does to an organizer.

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